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#11 Sep 27, 2017 7:19 pm

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New Historian, you hit the nail on the head. My wonder is whether the advocates of such behavior would end up banging their heads against walls and other hard objects -- or run for miles through the neighborhood, daily, talking to themselves, with food in hand but eating nothing -- should their favored activity turn on them, or, simply accept equilibrium.

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#12 Sep 27, 2017 7:31 pm

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The trend towards equality of the sexes will reduce man's natural wandering tendencies. Back in the day women knew what their husbands were up to, but did nothing about it - bless 'em lol! Nowadays young women not putting up with that shit, they're gonna retaliate kind - and THEN some lol! NO ONE is colder than "a riled-up woman"!! So men are either gonna be more committed - or more careful lol!!!

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#13 Sep 28, 2017 3:23 am

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New Historian wrote:

The trend towards equality of the sexes will reduce man's natural wandering tendencies. Back in the day women knew what their husbands were up to, but did nothing about it - bless 'em lol! Nowadays young women not putting up with that shit, they're gonna retaliate kind - and THEN some lol! NO ONE is colder than "a riled-up woman"!! So men are either gonna be more committed - or more careful lol!!!


You are right! Men used to cheat while their wives turn their heads the other way. Princess Diana was the first royal to push this ideology into the modern world.  Men cannot have their cake and eat it too. I have seen marriages suffer because men have divided hearts. Stay faithful. That is the natural law.

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#14 Sep 30, 2017 8:51 pm

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It could NOT be correct that being "faithful . . . is the natural law." That is because man has to work too hard to be "faithful". If it were natural it would be done automatically. The fact of man's NATURAL propensity to be otherwise makes it necessary for man to be told to be "faithful". Even with that said, I support the requirement to run away from man's natural tendencies to be other than "faithful".

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#15 Oct 01, 2017 8:37 am

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Garden of Eaten wrote:

It could NOT be correct that being "faithful . . . is the natural law." That is because man has to work too hard to be "faithful". If it were natural it would be done automatically. The fact of man's NATURAL propensity to be otherwise makes it necessary for man to be told to be "faithful". Even with that said, I support the requirement to run away from man's natural tendencies to be other than "faithful".




Cheating is unnatural. We are given the free choice to do as we like. We can control our impulses and desires. If I know that cheating is going to disrupt the natural flow of my relationship then why would I do it After all I am not stupid. Not all men cheat. Some are more stable than others and know that it is not worth the price.

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#16 Oct 01, 2017 9:01 am

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Garden of Eaten wrote:

It could NOT be correct that being "faithful . . . is the natural law." That is because man has to work too hard to be "faithful". If it were natural it would be done automatically. The fact of man's NATURAL propensity to be otherwise makes it necessary for man to be told to be "faithful". Even with that said, I support the requirement to run away from man's natural tendencies to be other than "faithful".

Natural law does not mean that we do not have to put our attention and good will into it. We humans are here precisely to raise the animal to the human - or may I say to the sacred and divine. This is what makes our life here meaningful and worth living. At least for me smile

It's not an easy exercise to be a human being. This life destabilises us, challenges us way way beyond our limits, tears us apart, leading us, from questioning to questioning, to the fundamental question, to our core. I have experienced myself as utterly vulnerable, imperfect and fallible, so I am speaking humbly.

Sometimes temptation can reveal a dissatisfaction in a relationship. It's then worth addressing the trouble, see whether to stay with this partner, husband, wife, or whether to end the relationship in a clean way, being then free for someone else.

Let us give attention to and understand what our partner, husband, wife means to us - before we destroy, leave or lose him/her:

how would I be feeling if I would soil the sanctity of my partner, husband, wife?
how would I be feeling if I would destroy the sanctity of my relationship?
how would I be feeling if I would harm him/her, betray him/her?
is this other person worth sacrificing my partner, husband, wife?
how would I be feeling if I would lose my partner, husband, wife?

If we are working at rising ourselves up,  cultivating the sense of sanctity, cultivating caring and loyalty, we develop the taste for it, and, indeed, we reach a point where, rather than temptation, we understand at what level our sympathy for someone is in fact resonating: at the level of heart and soul, of brotherhood.

And promiscuity and cheating end up feeling yucky and inconceivable.

And what is in fact our higher nature, reveals and manifests itself further. Which in itself is possibly our greatest achievement, best justification and meaning for our life down here. And it is blissful.

... in the chapter "Butterflies & Unicorns" by Vanni tongue

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#17 Oct 01, 2017 9:04 am

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Calypso wrote:
Garden of Eaten wrote:

It could NOT be correct that being "faithful . . . is the natural law." That is because man has to work too hard to be "faithful". If it were natural it would be done automatically. The fact of man's NATURAL propensity to be otherwise makes it necessary for man to be told to be "faithful". Even with that said, I support the requirement to run away from man's natural tendencies to be other than "faithful".




Cheating is unnatural. We are given the free choice to do as we like. We can control our impulses and desires. If I know that cheating is going to disrupt the natural flow of my relationship then why would I do it After all I am not stupid. Not all men cheat. Some are more stable than others and know that it is not worth the price.


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Now....Now...Now..Calypso look who is talking about cheating is unnatural....  Calypso let me remind you.... There is a verse in the bible that tells us that you don't have to have sex with someone to be considered cheating.. Lusting over the opposite sex can also be considered cheating as well...

Just to refresh your memory Calypso remember you were lusting over a man with tight Jeans and a healthy backside a few years ago... As a matter of fact it was months after you got married... So I can also say you were cheating on your husband by lusting over another man..

Well I am one of the biggest cheater in my relationship... Everytime I see a woman with a healthy breast and not mention a coke bottle figure and a healthy bam bam I start lusting over her and I can consider myself cheating....

So Calypso you better be natural and stop been unnatural by lusting over the opposite sex...

Mt Rich Possi

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#18 Oct 01, 2017 11:05 am

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Mt Rich Possi wrote:
Calypso wrote:
Garden of Eaten wrote:

It could NOT be correct that being "faithful . . . is the natural law." That is because man has to work too hard to be "faithful". If it were natural it would be done automatically. The fact of man's NATURAL propensity to be otherwise makes it necessary for man to be told to be "faithful". Even with that said, I support the requirement to run away from man's natural tendencies to be other than "faithful".




Cheating is unnatural. We are given the free choice to do as we like. We can control our impulses and desires. If I know that cheating is going to disrupt the natural flow of my relationship then why would I do it After all I am not stupid. Not all men cheat. Some are more stable than others and know that it is not worth the price.


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Now....Now...Now..Calypso look who is talking about cheating is unnatural....  Calypso let me remind you.... There is a verse in the bible that tells us that you don't have to have sex with someone to be considered cheating.. Lusting over the opposite sex can also be considered cheating as well...

Just to refresh your memory Calypso remember you were lusting over a man with tight Jeans and a healthy backside a few years ago... As a matter of fact it was months after you got married... So I can also say you were cheating on your husband by lusting over another man..

Well I am one of the biggest cheater in my relationship... Everytime I see a woman with a healthy breast and not mention a coke bottle figure and a healthy bam bam I start lusting over her and I can consider myself cheating....

So Calypso you better be natural and stop been unnatural by lusting over the opposite sex...

Mt Rich Possi


I do look at beautiful and never will stop. Just the other day I was look at a 25 year old. I know that I could have been his mother and I would never try to seduce a 25 year old.  I was just admiring. I know the difference!

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#19 Oct 01, 2017 11:27 am

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Calypso wrote:
Mt Rich Possi wrote:
Calypso wrote:



Cheating is unnatural. We are given the free choice to do as we like. We can control our impulses and desires. If I know that cheating is going to disrupt the natural flow of my relationship then why would I do it After all I am not stupid. Not all men cheat. Some are more stable than others and know that it is not worth the price.


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Now....Now...Now..Calypso look who is talking about cheating is unnatural....  Calypso let me remind you.... There is a verse in the bible that tells us that you don't have to have sex with someone to be considered cheating.. Lusting over the opposite sex can also be considered cheating as well...

Just to refresh your memory Calypso remember you were lusting over a man with tight Jeans and a healthy backside a few years ago... As a matter of fact it was months after you got married... So I can also say you were cheating on your husband by lusting over another man..

Well I am one of the biggest cheater in my relationship... Everytime I see a woman with a healthy breast and not mention a coke bottle figure and a healthy bam bam I start lusting over her and I can consider myself cheating....

So Calypso you better be natural and stop been unnatural by lusting over the opposite sex...

Mt Rich Possi


I do look at beautiful and never will stop. Just the other day I was look at a 25 year old. I know that I could have been his mother and I would never try to seduce a 25 year old.  I was just admiring. I know the difference!

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I don't believe a word you saying Calypso... You were lusting over the young boy... Shame on you Calypso Shame on you....But this is what I believe.... Viagra don't work for you husband anymore so right now you looking at greener pastures because you husband can't ignite the spark anymore...  Lawrd have mercy... My heart goes out to that poor husband of yours...

Mt Rich Possi

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#20 Oct 01, 2017 12:08 pm

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Calypso wrote:

I do look at beautiful and never will stop. Just the other day I was look at a 25 year old. I know that I could have been his mother and I would never try to seduce a 25 year old.  I was just admiring. I know the difference!

Very nicely put Calypso smile sharing your passion for beauty. This said, if it is not accompanied by inner beauty, the form itself feels terribly unattractive to me.

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