From Grenada...

Real Distwalker

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Me, back when I was dating...

Slice

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Ah doh know how to comment on this.  What if that is you and wiffe.

Real Distwalker

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Nah, it's just a joke.  I don't know those people.  The point is that socialism is economic ignorance.

Vanni

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RD, how about if capitalism was spiritual ignorance?

There are levels of life where people live in the awareness and application of the spiritual laws. Without money, without competition. With all their needs - and wants - amply covered. Because everyone offers his best, with a motivation which no amount of promise of money can offer.

So, so much happier than in a world where natural resources are being exploited without respect and wealth is being proudly funneled by a few into the billions. Where if we care, we are being considered as cretins. And where, in a supposed to be advanced civilisation, there are still some people starving and suffering unnecessarily.

Real Distwalker

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Yep. If humans were angels socialism might work.  They aren't and it doesn't.

Expat

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Yep. If humans were angels socialism might work.  They aren't and it doesn't.

While I don't support the full extent of Socialism. I think it has it's pluses. Likewise Capitalism has it's pluses, but neither is it close to being a 100% the right way to go.

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RD, I tried studying your statement that "If humans were angels socialism might work." Is that also an admission that capitalism brings out the worst in us, with socialism being closer to the angelic goal?

Real Distwalker

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Capitalism takes advantage of the nature of humans to take care of themselves thus the greater good.  Let me quote Adam Smith in 1776.

"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities but of their advantages. Nobody but a beggar chooses to depend chiefly upon the benevolence of his fellow-citizens. Even a beggar does not depend upon it entirely. The charity of well-disposed people, indeed, supplies him with the whole fund of his subsistence. But though this principle ultimately provides him with all the necessaries of life which he has occasion for, it neither does nor can provide him with them as he has occasion for them. The greater part of his occasional wants are supplied in the same manner as those of other people, by treaty, by barter, and by purchase. With the money which one man gives him he purchases food. The old clothes which another bestows upon him he exchanges for other old clothes which suit him better, or for lodging, or for food, or for money, with which he can buy either food, clothes, or lodging, as he has occasion."

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The "angelic goal" is an impossible goal.  Humans aren't capable of being angels.  Every thought, word and deed is the result of self-interest in one form or another.

Expat

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The "angelic goal" is an impossible goal.  Humans aren't capable of being angels.  Every thought, word and deed is the result of self-interest in one form or another.

Killjoy  :{

Now you have done away with angels the next stage is the Big guy will be in the bin.  Its a slippery slope to Hell.