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#21 Apr 14, 2018 12:42 pm

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Re: Cracking down on knives in the UK

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You are not a problem (except on here)  LoL.

And many adults in the course of their work would not be. But I am trying to think why a city gent, or a 12 year old or 17 year old going to school would need one. They make pencil sharpeners which are much lighter, and very effective. If a knife whether in a combo, or on it's own is illegal, then end of story. Your previous photo's of eating stakes was plainly dumb, as there is no restriction of the use of knives in the kitchen or at the table in a restaurant, but there is no logical reason for carrying a zombie knife, is there?



Selling, buying and carrying knives

The maximum penalty for an adult carrying a knife is 4 years in prison and an unlimited fine. You’ll get a prison sentence if you’re convicted of carrying a knife more than once.
Basic laws on knives

It’s illegal to:

    sell a knife to anyone under 18, unless it has a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less
    carry a knife in public without good reason, unless it has a folding blade with a cutting edge 3 inches long or less
    carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife
    use any knife in a threatening way (even a legal knife)

Scotland

In Scotland, 16 to 18 year olds are allowed to buy cutlery and kitchen knives.
Lock knives

Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason. Lock knives:

    have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button
    can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener

Banned knives and weapons

It is illegal to bring into the UK, sell, hire, lend or give anyone the following:

    butterfly knives (also known as ‘balisongs’) - a blade hidden inside a handle that splits in the middle
    disguised knives - a blade or sharp point hidden inside what looks like everyday objects such as a buckle, phone, brush or lipstick
    flick knives (also known as ‘switchblades’ or ‘automatic knives’) - a blade hidden inside a handle which shoots out when a button is pressed
    gravity knives
    stealth knives - a knife or spike not made from metal (except when used at home, for food or a toy)
    zombie knives - a knife with a cutting edge, a serrated edge and images or words suggesting it is used for violence
    swords, including samurai swords - a curved blade over 50cm (with some exceptions, such as antiques and swords made to traditional methods before 1954)
    sword-sticks - a hollow walking stick or cane containing a blade
    push daggers
    blowpipes (‘blow gun’)
    telescopic truncheons - extend automatically by pressing button or spring in the handle
    batons - straight, side-handled or friction-lock truncheons
    hollow kubotans - a cylinder-shaped keychain holding spikes
    shurikens (also known as ‘shaken’, ‘death stars’ or ‘throwing stars’)
    kusari-gama - a sickle attached to a rope, cord or wire
    kyoketsu-shoge - a hook-knife attached to a rope, cord or wire
    kusari (or ‘manrikigusari’) - a weight attached to a rope, cord, wire
    hand or foot-claws
    knuckledusters

Contact your local police to check if a knife or weapon is illegal.
Good reasons for carrying a knife or weapon

Examples of good reasons to carry a knife or weapon in public can include:

    taking knives you use at work to and from work
    taking it to a gallery or museum to be exhibited
    if it’ll be used for theatre, film, television, historical reenactment or religious purposes, for example the kirpan some Sikhs carry
    if it’ll be used in a demonstration or to teach someone how to use it

A court will decide if you’ve got a good reason to carry a knife or a weapon if you’re charged with carrying it illegally.

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#22 Apr 14, 2018 5:04 pm

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Re: Cracking down on knives in the UK

Huh.  I can carry any type of knife legally in Iowa and I don't even need a reason.  Including this one.   Freedom baby.

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#23 Apr 15, 2018 7:25 pm

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Re: Cracking down on knives in the UK

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Huh.  I can carry any type of knife legally in Iowa and I don't even need a reason.  Including this one.   Freedom baby.

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Yes, but you did say you lived in Iowa, it's hardly "civilised" is it.

I doubt very much New York or Chicago police would be impressed. They do not even allow gravity knives, and having learned the knack will make a regular folding knife open like a gravity knife and get an arrest by sneakiness.

You cannot compare, and it is plainly idiotic to do so the open prairies or woodlands of some States to Urban life whether it is in America, Norway, Britain of any other country in high density areas. Simply braying about what you can do in a place where you have to drive 3 days to meet your neighbour is ridiculous.

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#24 Apr 15, 2018 7:49 pm

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"Simply braying about what you can do in a place where you have to drive 3 days to meet your neighbour is ridiculous."

HEAR-HEAR!

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#25 Apr 16, 2018 9:19 am

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Re: Cracking down on knives in the UK

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You cannot compare, and it is plainly idiotic to do so the open prairies or woodlands of some States to Urban life whether it is in America, Norway, Britain of any other country in high density areas. Simply braying about what you can do in a place where you have to drive 3 days to meet your neighbour is ridiculous.

That's really my point too.  And yet people keep wanting to change weapons laws in all of the United States.  It isn't enough that they change them in, say New York, they want to ban weapons throughout the land.

It is stupid to compare but you know as well as I do that gun control advocates in the urban centers want to ban AR-15s and everything else out here in the hinterland.

In fact, I have heard it said on here.  I remind Slice that gun laws in Maryland are restrictive and harsh and he complains that the guns are brought in from other states.

So, yeah, you can't compare New York to Iowa so New Yorkers should stop doing exactly that when they demand that New York laws be imposed on Iowa.

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#26 Apr 17, 2018 7:23 pm

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I think we have been in agreement generally on different State and location usage.

I would probably still press your buttons by saying that while I do not want to ban a gun simply because it LOOKS threatening, like the AR15, and I actually wouldn't want to stop its sale as a civilian sporting rifle which is a multi platform for gadgets, which it is.

However I really do believe having a 5 or max 10 round mag is enough even for the lousiest hunter, and unless you are ultra paranoid I don't think either the Ruskies are coming, nor the State about to attack the general homesteader. There is no need... other than fun, and running one of those how many does it take for it to fall apart tests for a 30 or 50 round mag. But limiting the mag capacity might make slaughter house victims fewer and LE more able to corner the culprit while he is trying to change a mag.

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#27 Apr 17, 2018 9:40 pm

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I don't know that you can put that toothpaste back in the tube.  There are tens of millions of those magazines in circulation.

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#28 Apr 18, 2018 9:52 am

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RD's stock answer to the slightest attempt to curb America's addiction to WMDs: it can't be changed. Ah but it can, you just have to break a few "sacred eggs".

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#29 Apr 18, 2018 2:57 pm

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Bring it on.  I will wait.

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#30 Apr 18, 2018 3:27 pm

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Not again. Life too short to break my head against brick walls of people's intransigence and unwillingness to listen to reason. You see the world through the prism of only one thing: YOUR life. Not others', just yours. Too much self in self.

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