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#1 May 15, 2018 10:42 pm

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So now Trump has blood on his hands.

Nice one Trumpy. 60 dead and hundreds injured.... On the Palestinian side. As always.

Was it not bloody obvious that moving the Embassy would cause a riot...Literally?

Why didn't 20 or 30 other countries do it long ago?

OK RD is going to say it was Hamas's fault for stirring up the youth to protest on the boarder.  But what the hell does anyone expect when they are being shafted every day by the Israeli.

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#2 May 15, 2018 10:49 pm

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Re: So now Trump has blood on his hands.

Expat wrote:

Was it not bloody obvious that moving the Embassy would cause a riot...Literally?

Why do you think Palestinians are mindless automatons who react automatically to stimulus?  Why do you think they have no individual agency?  Why do you think they are not responsible for their own actions?  Why do you think they are only capable of a glandular response and cannot think for themselves? Why do you hate Palestinians?

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#3 May 16, 2018 7:33 am

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Re: So now Trump has blood on his hands.

Why did Trump move the embassy?

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#4 May 16, 2018 7:53 am

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Because Bill Clinton, when he was president, recognized Jerusalem the capital of Israel.  It is where the government of that nation is centered.

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#5 May 16, 2018 12:17 pm

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Because Bill Clinton, when he was president, recognized Jerusalem the capital of Israel.  It is where the government of that nation is centered.

A lot of leaders have recognised it was the capital of Israel. Most of them have also recognised that putting their Embassy their would create yet another flashpoint until a sustainable peace process could be engineered. Trump is a one man nuclear bomb.

I don't love Israelis, I don't love Palestinians. Neither do I hate either group. I feel sorry for them as the participants in a dance that has been going on since European intervention.

However I firmly believe that the oppressive and confrontational actions of the Israeli deliberately incite the Palestinians and then the Israeli hold up their hands and say.... See, we told you these animals are out to get us.

America has several hundred gallons of blood washing over its hands for the Jewish lobby's ability to steer the American Government into supporting its "Friend" Israel when the whole World knows Israel has been in contempt of UN mandates for decades. And that Israel has persisted in stealing more and more Palestinian land for their settlements. Usualy at a time when "Peace Negotiations" are in progress. Cynical or what!!

You have already stated in the past you fully support the American Governments position, so keep counting the bodies, and blaming them for committing suicide. When their actions generally speaking are far less effective than the Israeli reprisals which are supposed to "teach em a lesson they wont forget". So, we know 60 Palestinians were killed, and ?hundreds injured. How many IDF personnel were killed?

The Arab Empire took on the Jews and lost. Israel took the West Bank and Gaza, the Palestinians are hostages to a War that all the other Arabs wish would go away.

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#6 May 16, 2018 1:43 pm

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There is an easy means by which any of the dead Palestinians could have still been alive today.  It was 100 percent in their control.  They could have done what the vast majority of Gazens did that day.  Not attack Israel.

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#7 May 17, 2018 2:22 pm

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No empathy, no understanding, and an acute case of Myopia. From fortress Iowa everything is black and white.

People the World over have protested injustice, people the World over have died in the process. Had they not done so places like America wouldn't have labour laws to protect workers from egregious acts of exploitation, African Americans would be even worse off than they currently are. Women would not have the vote. etc etc. Some sacrifices regrettably are inevitable, or change does not happen.

To put it in plain English the Israeli are shagging the backside off the Palestinians and they will not stop until the Palestinians have been completely emasculated with the help of freedom loving America. If someone tried to, or even dared to talk about taking your guns you and thousands of others would be marching up and down calling for regime change. It could, and would escalate.

The Israeli are not giving the Palestinians a fair break in any shape or form. Many Jews inside and outside Israel say the same thing. The hawks, a breed you seem to align with in your own country simply want it all, so the Palestinians spin like top in mud until they are completely stateless and at the mercy of the other Arab states who do not want to be burdened with them either.

Israel was the victim of Arab attempts of being driven into the sea. They won, and by hook or by crook they are doing exactly that to the peoples who shared that land for hundreds or even thousands of years. Somehow a fallacious book called the old Testament conveniently states it is their promised land and gives their claim legitimacy in the Bible bemused World. Utter BS. Its just akin to the victor writing history in their own favour.

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#8 May 17, 2018 4:21 pm

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Re: So now Trump has blood on his hands.

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There is an easy means by which any of the dead Palestinians could have still been alive today.  It was 100 percent in their control.  They could have done what the vast majority of Gazens did that day.  Not attack Israel.


Of course. If those troublesome Arabs would just accept their place in life, there'd be no problems, right? If they'd just accept the fact that their land was stolen from them and given to "God's chosen people", then all would be well in the world, right?

Silly Arabs.

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#9 May 17, 2018 5:04 pm

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So if the Jews were "given" Palestine 2,000 years ago, then.....

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#10 May 17, 2018 11:42 pm

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See, when Patriots of the Continental Army died we didn't whine like pussies that they were hapless victims.  We honored them as warriors.

So which is it? Are the Palis  brave fighters willing to fight and die for their cause or are they hapless victims of Donald Trum?  You can't have it both ways.

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