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#11 Jul 19, 2018 4:36 pm

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"How, if he only really has the undivided support of 30% of his base can he have support of 60% of all white mails."

Because the 30% are only his base, the deplorables, the other 30% are the "decent Republicans" (sic) and Evangelicals who don't like but will still vote him because of two reasons: hatred of the Democrats, and lower taxes. Nothing else matters to them.

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#12 Jul 19, 2018 5:13 pm

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That Maths still doesn't add up, as Trump only just got the pass mark in the election with EVERY body, Base, Evangelicals, and Disgruntled voters all rolled into one.... and there would have been anything from 30% to 50% of those voters being female.  It is impossible for there to be 60% of White male voters supporting Trump.

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#13 Jul 19, 2018 5:17 pm

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>>How, if he only really has the undivided support of 30% of his base can he have support of 60% of all white mails.<<

Yep. 85% of republicans are fully supportive of Trump. Even if he stepped out on 5th Ave holding hands with Pootin and shot somebody. Trump is exactly what they wanted. The man is almost as popular with his base as Put-In and Kim-Jung is with theirs.

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#14 Jul 19, 2018 5:22 pm

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GMW wrote:

>>How, if he only really has the undivided support of 30% of his base can he have support of 60% of all white mails.<<

Yep. 85% of republicans are fully supportive of Trump. Even if he stepped out on 5th Ave holding hands with Pootin and shot somebody. Trump is exactly what they wanted. The man is almost as popular with his base as Put-In and Kim-Jung is with theirs.


Yes, but what happened to the 49% of people who didn't vote for Trump, plus the large number who did, and now regret it. It simply does not add up to your 60% of white male electorate sticking with Trump.

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#15 Jul 19, 2018 7:27 pm

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 07996.html

Exit poll data found that 52 per cent of white women voted for Mr Trump, compared with 63 per cent of white men.

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#16 Jul 19, 2018 8:32 pm

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New Historian wrote:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl … 07996.html

Exit poll data found that 52 per cent of white women voted for Mr Trump, compared with 63 per cent of white men.


But he didn't win on the popular vote did he? If it had been left to the people he would have lost, it was the electoral colleges that swung it for him.

These sums are not adding up.

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#17 Jul 19, 2018 8:54 pm

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Like the song says: "Anyway you look at it, you lose" Yes he lost by 3 million votes, so much for the land of the free and home of democracy blah blah. Their electoral machinery is opaque and archaic, their party political system is institutionally corrupt with big business and vested interests buying voters and votees, and all the while invisible strings pull the strings of the puppets in power. What a joke, Mugabe would love to have such a system!

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#18 Jul 19, 2018 11:08 pm

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The state based electoral vote system in the US is the way in which presidents have always been elected.  It is the way Obama was elected.  Hillary Clinton was aware of the electoral system and built her campaign around it.  You really should try to understand why a system in which four or five states could elect the president leaving the other 45 states irrelevant would mean the dissolution of the country.

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#19 Jul 20, 2018 3:48 am

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Dancer wrote:

I wonder how RD feels today ,
Brought up on God Bless America , hand over heart , wants  to lynch  football players  kneeling for equal rights , saying they  disrespecting the flag.
Spying on its  citizens in the name of terror.
NOW ....  The President of the USA saying his intelligence agency is lying right besides Putin.
A Russian in the White House . ... and it seems  ......  all is well .

Obama .... wasted 8 years not telling it like it is. Started from Rev Wright.

Yes what a funny world we live in. Dancer he is the president  who visited the queen of England!!!
Dancer!!! take care they don't say you are the racist! or terrorist!  you are easy target
Ask some children from Grenada countryside  what is a racist. Will you believe it but they have never come across this word before.
They certainly will when they travel out of their sheltered lives in Grenada to the west!!! I am absolutely!!! sure!!! hmmmm . Food for thought  . What a shame!!!

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#20 Jul 20, 2018 1:35 pm

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Expat wrote:

That Maths still doesn't add up, as Trump only just got the pass mark in the election with EVERY body, Base, Evangelicals, and Disgruntled voters all rolled into one.... and there would have been anything from 30% to 50% of those voters being female.  It is impossible for there to be 60% of White male voters supporting Trump.


Hey XP you notice I ignored your debate about yards and inches? That's because its somewhat of a distraction. The Fact is were not for the enabling of this treasonous crook by these powerful groups I mentioned that filth would have been up shit creek a long time ago. What's happening right now is as much a reflection of America's real values in these time as it is about Trump's sleaziness.

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