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#1 Jul 22, 2018 8:25 am

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An Old Jamaican Folksong



I truly haven't thought about this folk song in years. Researching about Nina Simone brought it back. Enjoy!

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#2 Jul 22, 2018 6:32 pm

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Re: An Old Jamaican Folksong

Calypso, regarding your post, are you familiar with the following statement?

"Evening time has been mistaken as a old Jamaican folk song but this piece was written and used as the opening song in the Pantomime "Busha Bluebeard" in 1949.a Personal Authorship. Music by Barbara Ferland and Lyrics by Louise Bennett."

The statement is found at http://jamaicans.com/eveningt/

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#3 Jul 22, 2018 7:18 pm

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Re: An Old Jamaican Folksong

gripe wrote:

Calypso, regarding your post, are you familiar with the following statement?

"Evening time has been mistaken as a old Jamaican folk song but this piece was written and used as the opening song in the Pantomime "Busha Bluebeard" in 1949.a Personal Authorship. Music by Barbara Ferland and Lyrics by Louise Bennett."

The statement is found at http://jamaicans.com/eveningt/

http://www.ltmpantomime.com/pages/detai … beard.html




What is your definition of a folksong?

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#4 Jul 22, 2018 8:05 pm

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Your subject line "AN OLD JA folksong"

Would lead one to think 100-200 years or so.

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#5 Jul 22, 2018 8:25 pm

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Calypso, my response to you was to provide the perspective from some Jamaicans and not to debate the definition of "folk song". The source that I quoted seemed more interested in giving credit to both Ms. Ferland and Ms. Bennett although the quote also debunked the idea that the song is "a old Jamaican folk song". If those folks are correct, 69 years -- 1949, the claimed origin of the song, to today -- is really not too old.

To your question, however, my understanding of a folk song is a cultural piece specific to a particular country or region spanning many, many years. The definition from the Oxford Living Dictionary is: "A song that is written in traditional popular culture or that is written in such a style." https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/folk_song  According to Merriam-Webster, a folk song is "a traditional or composed song typically characterized by stanzaic form, refrain, and simplicity of melody".  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/folk%20song

In any event, the song is quite popular. I remember it being sung at home -- years ago -- by cultural groups.

Thanks for the post.

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#6 Jul 22, 2018 11:51 pm

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Re: An Old Jamaican Folksong

gripe wrote:

Calypso, my response to you was to provide the perspective from some Jamaicans and not to debate the definition of "folk song". The source that I quoted seemed more interested in giving credit to both Ms. Ferland and Ms. Bennett although the quote also debunked the idea that the song is "a old Jamaican folk song". If those folks are correct, 69 years -- 1949, the claimed origin of the song, to today -- is really not too old.

To your question, however, my understanding of a folk song is a cultural piece specific to a particular country or region spanning many, many years. The definition from the Oxford Living Dictionary is: "A song that is written in traditional popular culture or that is written in such a style." https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/folk_song  According to Merriam-Webster, a folk song is "a traditional or composed song typically characterized by stanzaic form, refrain, and simplicity of melody".  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/folk%20song

In any event, the song is quite popular. I remember it being sung at home -- years ago -- by cultural groups.

Thanks for the post.

Thanks for your insight also. I would consider any song with patois and the flavor of the Caribbean a "folk song" due to the fact that slavery was abolish in that part of the world around 1831. We are a new nation born from slaves. We build our lives as members of various African tribes in a new world. Songs like those are representative of our newly found experiences in our new land. I used to sing that song as a girl.

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#7 Jul 23, 2018 5:56 am

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Kaiso,you lost your argument just admit and move on.  Stop all dat spin.

Last edited by Slice (Jul 23, 2018 10:35 am)

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#8 Jul 23, 2018 7:32 am

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gripe wrote:

Calypso, my response to you was to provide the perspective from some Jamaicans and not to debate the definition of "folk song". The source that I quoted seemed more interested in giving credit to both Ms. Ferland and Ms. Bennett although the quote also debunked the idea that the song is "a old Jamaican folk song". If those folks are correct, 69 years -- 1949, the claimed origin of the song, to today -- is really not too old.

To your question, however, my understanding of a folk song is a cultural piece specific to a particular country or region spanning many, many years. The definition from the Oxford Living Dictionary is: "A song that is written in traditional popular culture or that is written in such a style." https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/folk_song  According to Merriam-Webster, a folk song is "a traditional or composed song typically characterized by stanzaic form, refrain, and simplicity of melody".  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/folk%20song

In any event, the song is quite popular. I remember it being sung at home -- years ago -- by cultural groups.

Thanks for the post.

I went off on that tangent, and then remembered or realised the great swathe of Folk Songs that came out in the 60/70's. Peter Paul and Mary etc.

Hence my twist about "OLD" in the heading... smile

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