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#1 Aug 03, 2018 1:31 pm

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ZIMBABWE ......... should still be .... RHODESIA

Who wanted Zimbabwe   to return to being Rhodesia and keeps whites ruling ?
" Black people need that , better for them "

Welcome      :::::::::    TO REGRESSION.

watershed  moment for me.

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#2 Aug 03, 2018 10:19 pm

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Oh Lordy Lord Lord.

Mugabe Gawn, and all should be well with the World.

But no, probability of an ex Mugabe henchman taking over the reins, and screwing with the elections just like the Ol' Massa in chief.

Apart from the blood letting that occurred under Mugabe, I have no problem with Africanisation of the Nation. To be fair, we have seen corruption and miscarriages of justice are not exclusive to Africa, so lets not judge too quickly.

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#3 Aug 04, 2018 7:28 am

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Expat wrote:

Oh Lordy Lord Lord.

Mugabe Gawn, and all should be well with the World.

But no, probability of an ex Mugabe henchman taking over the reins, and screwing with the elections just like the Ol' Massa in chief.

Apart from the blood letting that occurred under Mugabe, I have no problem with Africanisation of the Nation. To be fair, we have seen corruption and miscarriages of justice are not exclusive to Africa, so lets not judge too quickly.


Africa has always been packed with corruption and that is a primary cause for their stagnation. We, Caribbean nations, should have been looking to the continent for financial help instead of Europe. Unfortunately, we manage ourselves better than they do. They need to learn to work with Europeans and get their money's worth. Cecil Rhodes (Rhodesia) left a nasty legacy.

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#4 Aug 04, 2018 9:29 am

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Re: ZIMBABWE ......... should still be .... RHODESIA

Dancer wrote:

Who wanted Zimbabwe   to return to being Rhodesia and keeps whites ruling ?
" Black people need that , better for them "

Welcome      :::::::::    TO REGRESSION.

watershed  moment for me.

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No, No , No , No .... and NO.

""" Do you really think  I , Dancer , would be saying that SHITE.   >>> Zimbabwe should still be Rhodesia , black people need  that better for them  <<<<

ASK Slice's  friend  WH man - - who said that . (  and believes it )

" Hello ; Welcome  -- F**K !!!!

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#5 Aug 04, 2018 9:58 am

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Dancer wrote:

Who wanted Zimbabwe   to return to being Rhodesia and keeps whites ruling ?
" Black people need that , better for them "

Welcome      :::::::::    TO REGRESSION.

watershed  moment for me.


Whether we want to believe it or not, the continent of Africa was founded on the principle of greed. Zimbabwe under the leadership of Cecil Rhodes suppressed the Africans and other European nations to build his Anglo-Saxon empire. Just like Hitler was pro-Aryan people and Mugabe is Pro-African people, the centric mentality was not for all people but for their own. Africa was never build of the philosophy of sharing and equality; it was build on the principle of greed or one dominating power. We can't deny the fact that Rhodes left a strong  Ingra-structure for English expatriates. His diamond and gold  conglomerates enabled him to build Rhodesia's telegraph system, railroad and agriculture.  Mugabe did exactly what Rhodes did and got criticized  for it. Black leaders cannot afford to play trial and error with the economy after a nation has been built. What they can do is to work alongside the whites, who have had centuries of experience, to build their nation.

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#6 Aug 04, 2018 11:03 am

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Time moves on, What was acceptable, or not frowned on by exploiters has become unacceptable to almost everyone except those who are currently seeking power.

Can anyone say that the brutal murder of many White farmers and many of their loyal employees was acceptable?

What was the norm in terms of brutality in GreekoRoaman times, or The Dark and Middle ages is completely unacceptable now. Unless you live in Saudi and you don't mind being stoned to death.

What was ? OK during the enlargement of the Empire is now to be criticised... And so it should be, but lets not forget context.

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#7 Aug 04, 2018 11:23 am

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Re: ZIMBABWE ......... should still be .... RHODESIA

Expat wrote:

Time moves on, What was acceptable, or not frowned on by exploiters has become unacceptable to almost everyone except those who are currently seeking power.

Can anyone say that the brutal murder of many White farmers and many of their loyal employees was acceptable?

What was the norm in terms of brutality in GreekoRoaman times, or The Dark and Middle ages is completely unacceptable now. Unless you live in Saudi and you don't mind being stoned to death.

What was ? OK during the enlargement of the Empire is now to be criticised... And so it should be, but lets not forget context.

The brutality of the whites nations when they colonized the dark continents and subjected the dark race to a lifetime of labor, inferiority and servitude is the base of our power struggle. Sure men like Rhodes, etc. are given a second glance based on the attitudes and norms of modern society. But, you must know that it could never be eradicated. White power must be absolute in the minds of many who possess the skin. There will always be a power struggle between white and black, particularly where economic betterment is concerned. Will the white minority in Africa give control to the blacks? Can the black rule? Can the two races rule together in harmony ensuring that equality is distributed evenly? This debate will be for eternity.

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#8 Aug 04, 2018 1:41 pm

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Calypso wrote:
Expat wrote:

Time moves on, What was acceptable, or not frowned on by exploiters has become unacceptable to almost everyone except those who are currently seeking power.

Can anyone say that the brutal murder of many White farmers and many of their loyal employees was acceptable?

What was the norm in terms of brutality in GreekoRoaman times, or The Dark and Middle ages is completely unacceptable now. Unless you live in Saudi and you don't mind being stoned to death.

What was ? OK during the enlargement of the Empire is now to be criticised... And so it should be, but lets not forget context.

The brutality of the whites nations when they colonized the dark continents and subjected the dark race to a lifetime of labor, inferiority and servitude is the base of our power struggle. Sure men like Rhodes, etc. are given a second glance based on the attitudes and norms of modern society. But, you must know that it could never be eradicated. White power must be absolute in the minds of many who possess the skin. There will always be a power struggle between white and black, particularly where economic betterment is concerned. Will the white minority in Africa give control to the blacks? Can the black rule? Can the two races rule together in harmony ensuring that equality is distributed evenly? This debate will be for eternity.


I reaslly do not think Whites in general give a power struggle between blacks and whites a second thought. It is the province of the few Dullards that make up the likes of the KKK, and many Black people.

I just watched .... the name escapes me.... that Gay Black newscaster on CNN, and when a White guest said that most white folks do not really look at or think about the colour of your/his skin he was adamant that they should, and that he didn't want to just "be".

Power, lack of it, or gaining it is a Black issue.

Being downtrodden is universal, it has little to do with colour.  The population of European Countries lived in abject poverty, endured brutality and indifference to their plight, and counted for nothing at the same time Blacks were being exported from Africa.

Those in power currently for the most part, but not exclusively now ARE White or from European countries, however those people that ascended to the tops of their specialty very certainly did not plan getting one over on the Black Man.

In the past the trading and expansion of certain Empires was simply based on business expansion, had the populations in the countries to be exploited been white and trickable, defeatable, they would have run rough shod over them too. They had already had their power struggles within Europe, or were in the process of having them.

And Puleeeeese do not play the we were peace loving gentle folk in Africa before the Europeans arrived. That is just so much Bollcks  Slavery was alive and well inter-tribal for centuries, the difference being they were captured or given to assuage inter tribe issues and debts, and they would have been adopted into the next tribe instead of being abused. Shaka Zulu did not rule simply by being nice to his neighbours or extended tribe. He was a great tactition and Warrior.... errr just like Napoleon, or Wellington (who was simply a soldier), not a ruler. Mankind in general is expansive, and prone to war, it is not simply a White speciality.  We simply obtained Black Powder from the Chinese, and became good at it.

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#9 Aug 04, 2018 3:54 pm

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Re: ZIMBABWE ......... should still be .... RHODESIA

Expat wrote:
Calypso wrote:
Expat wrote:

Time moves on, What was acceptable, or not frowned on by exploiters has become unacceptable to almost everyone except those who are currently seeking power.

Can anyone say that the brutal murder of many White farmers and many of their loyal employees was acceptable?

What was the norm in terms of brutality in GreekoRoaman times, or The Dark and Middle ages is completely unacceptable now. Unless you live in Saudi and you don't mind being stoned to death.

What was ? OK during the enlargement of the Empire is now to be criticised... And so it should be, but lets not forget context.

The brutality of the whites nations when they colonized the dark continents and subjected the dark race to a lifetime of labor, inferiority and servitude is the base of our power struggle. Sure men like Rhodes, etc. are given a second glance based on the attitudes and norms of modern society. But, you must know that it could never be eradicated. White power must be absolute in the minds of many who possess the skin. There will always be a power struggle between white and black, particularly where economic betterment is concerned. Will the white minority in Africa give control to the blacks? Can the black rule? Can the two races rule together in harmony ensuring that equality is distributed evenly? This debate will be for eternity.



I just watched .... the name escapes me.... that Gay Black newscaster on CNN, and when a White guest said that most white folks do not really look at or think about the colour of your/his skin he was adamant that they should, and that he didn't want to just "be".

Power, lack of it, or gaining it is a Black issue.

Being downtrodden is universal, it has little to do with colour.  The population of European Countries lived in abject poverty, endured brutality and indifference to their plight, and counted for nothing at the same time Blacks were being exported from Africa.

Those in power currently for the most part, but not exclusively now ARE White or from European countries, however those people that ascended to the tops of their specialty very certainly did not plan getting one over on the Black Man.

In the past the trading and expansion of certain Empires was simply based on business expansion, had the populations in the countries to be exploited been white and trickable, defeatable, they would have run rough shod over them too. They had already had their power struggles within Europe, or were in the process of having them.

And Puleeeeese do not play the we were peace loving gentle folk in Africa before the Europeans arrived. That is just so much Bollcks  Slavery was alive and well inter-tribal for centuries, the difference being they were captured or given to assuage inter tribe issues and debts, and they would have been adopted into the next tribe instead of being abused. Shaka Zulu did not rule simply by being nice to his neighbours or extended tribe. He was a great tactition and Warrior.... errr just like Napoleon, or Wellington (who was simply a soldier), not a ruler. Mankind in general is expansive, and prone to war, it is not simply a White speciality.  We simply obtained Black Powder from the Chinese, and became good at it.





>>>>>>I really do not think Whites in general give a power struggle between blacks and whites a second thought. It is the province of the few Dullards that make up the likes of the KKK, and many Black people.<<<<<<<<<

You are living in "lollypop land when it comes to racism, power and control."

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#10 Aug 04, 2018 10:50 pm

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Re: ZIMBABWE ......... should still be .... RHODESIA

Calypso wrote:
Expat wrote:
Calypso wrote:

The brutality of the whites nations when they colonized the dark continents and subjected the dark race to a lifetime of labor, inferiority and servitude is the base of our power struggle. Sure men like Rhodes, etc. are given a second glance based on the attitudes and norms of modern society. But, you must know that it could never be eradicated. White power must be absolute in the minds of many who possess the skin. There will always be a power struggle between white and black, particularly where economic betterment is concerned. Will the white minority in Africa give control to the blacks? Can the black rule? Can the two races rule together in harmony ensuring that equality is distributed evenly? This debate will be for eternity.



I just watched .... the name escapes me.... that Gay Black newscaster on CNN, and when a White guest said that most white folks do not really look at or think about the colour of your/his skin he was adamant that they should, and that he didn't want to just "be".

Power, lack of it, or gaining it is a Black issue.

Being downtrodden is universal, it has little to do with colour.  The population of European Countries lived in abject poverty, endured brutality and indifference to their plight, and counted for nothing at the same time Blacks were being exported from Africa.

Those in power currently for the most part, but not exclusively now ARE White or from European countries, however those people that ascended to the tops of their specialty very certainly did not plan getting one over on the Black Man.

In the past the trading and expansion of certain Empires was simply based on business expansion, had the populations in the countries to be exploited been white and trickable, defeatable, they would have run rough shod over them too. They had already had their power struggles within Europe, or were in the process of having them.

And Puleeeeese do not play the we were peace loving gentle folk in Africa before the Europeans arrived. That is just so much Bollcks  Slavery was alive and well inter-tribal for centuries, the difference being they were captured or given to assuage inter tribe issues and debts, and they would have been adopted into the next tribe instead of being abused. Shaka Zulu did not rule simply by being nice to his neighbours or extended tribe. He was a great tactition and Warrior.... errr just like Napoleon, or Wellington (who was simply a soldier), not a ruler. Mankind in general is expansive, and prone to war, it is not simply a White speciality.  We simply obtained Black Powder from the Chinese, and became good at it.





>>>>>>I really do not think Whites in general give a power struggle between blacks and whites a second thought. It is the province of the few Dullards that make up the likes of the KKK, and many Black people.<<<<<<<<<

You are living in "lollypop land when it comes to racism, power and control."

My friend you are probably surrounded by people with tree trunks on their shoulders, simply sucking up the latest fad of black awareness does not mean you know bugger all about what you speak.

You can and are welcome to spout drivel regarding Black consciousness if you wish, but do not presume to tell those in the mid stream of White consciousness what they are thinking, as you will be so far from the truth you might as well be on another planet.

I state again very simply for you, there are too many idiots who believe in White supremacy, but they are not the majority by a very long way.  The rest simply either fear black hostility due to actions not of there making or desire, or ambivalent with some fervently supportive of the black perspective. America is full of problems, but despite it's numbers it is not the white World.

There are undoubtedly places where people of colour, if you want to call middle eastern people as well of colour, are oppressed within European cities like Paris, but it is probably as usual to do with Numbers, and self ghettoisation, as we have in the East End of London, which historically is one of the main places where newcomers settle. It has been home for the Jews, The French at the time of The french Sun King, and many others. Currently Asians are squashed in low quality housing, but if they get away from their self created tight knit communities and MIX, then they will be part of society like everyone else.

I am prepared to accept there are and have been all kinds of issues, but in "modern" society a deliberate restriction of black access to power is not one of them.

There are all kinds of reasons why people of colour are not at the top, but mostly it is down to education and contacts, very often the contacts come from your peers at the school you attended... Hence the "Old Boys Network", just like any club or institution they look after their own. It happens in all walks of life.  Police, Taxi drivers, Bus drivers and conductors what ever, you help your buddies. I speak of progression in the UK, I cannot claim any insight into America.  I would surmise though that Black Centrist Colleges may well provide an excellent education, but simply because they are apart as it were, it may not transcribe so well to qualification recognition?

I understand in decades past if black folks couldn't get into decent colleges they had to develop their own, but maybe it is time for THOSE colleges to be open to all students, and move into the current century?

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