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#21 Oct 14, 2018 11:41 pm

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Lord have mercy! Both of you boys are so FORCEFUL, COMMITTED, how's an undecided guy supposed to decide? a Mae West dilemma.

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#22 Oct 15, 2018 6:47 am

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Sorry I am not there.  I had to leave.  Listen to Expat and NH, they know Spice best. Ah sweet beach hang out is Umberalls on Grand Anse beach.  That place is loaded with American students when they are in town.  I think they open at 10am .  The food is good too.daily

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#23 Oct 15, 2018 8:02 am

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Or could it be you simply have more faith that your government and multinational chemical manufacturers are working for you rather than their common interests.

Seems I am not the only one when a whole sub continent... Europe... says no. If you want to poison yourselves knock yourself out. Just keep your shit to yourselves and don't compel third world farmers to use pesticides and poison tolerating crops they don't want to use.

The whole point is WE are changing things faster than we can adapt to them. Knuckle draggers had a much less complicated chemical/biological input, and as they changed things... ie. bread grasses to be consistent and usable they developed the gut flora etc to consume it. In the past 100 years or so "advances" in how we grow the crops made to order has created constituents that are working against many of us. Hence a lot of illnesses and allergies we did not have before. Or it could be argued were unable to diagnose, but generally speaking I think did not have is the better deduction.

Our bodies are under stress from all the toxins in the air, from manufacturing, and vehicular movement plus, plus.

Had they not realised the automobile industry was pumping out tons of lead we would be seeing larger numbers of mentally diminished children by now. Just because you aren't affected does not mean others aren't. Genetics plays a part with regards to our ability to cope with toxins as well. We all know stories about people living to or near to a 100 who smoke and drank to excess.... yet most people croak from lung or gut cancers on the same diet. Your personal experience doesn't count for jack.

Generally speaking Aboriginal peoples do not have a fraction of the conditions we have. As a rule of thumb, where MacDonalds and Coke go so does a rise in all kinds of illnesses that those countries had not had before.

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#24 Oct 15, 2018 8:31 am

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You are so scared.  The weather is going to kill you.  Vaccines are going to kill you.  Engineered food is going to kill you.   

World poverty is at an all time low.  World health is at an all time high.  Human lifespans across the globe are longer than ever.  And you worry the sky is falling. 

Whatever.

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#25 Oct 15, 2018 10:14 am

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De Nile is a river in Egypt.

America is one of the sickest Nations in the World, with Chronic weight problems, Chronic allergy problems, Chronic psychological issues etc etc. It has the highest medical costs in the World. Tablets that can be bought for cents on the dollar in Saudi of all places cost a couple of hundred bucks in the States because of your wonderful insurance schemes. What the market bears you pay.

All the information is out there in studies by reputable Universities, Health governing bodies around the World, and highly respected Professors. Or there's the FDA. and other Government controlled bodies.  You believe who you want to.

A vast array of conditions, many considered permanent, and incurable can be cured or improved greatly by .... if necessary... physical manipulation to improve nerve function, good undoctored food... mainly vegetables and fruit, absolute minimal use of drugs, most of which ultimately do more harm than good. Spookily if you read the contra indications on may drugs they actually potentially do exactly what they are supposed to cure.

Generally speaking NSAIDS damage your gut, joints and are neurotoxins, to make matters worse they lose their efficacy very quickly.

Generally speaking Doctors are Allopaths, they treat the symptom in front of them, they do not seek the cause. Nowadays it is getting worse, as the various disciplines do not talk to each other, so each specialist deals with patients without conferring.

Example a 50 something man turns up with knee pain x-rays show no degeneration, but pain killers would be provided.... pain killers that damage joint tissue. No investigation as to why the pain is there... could be a problem with the hip, as I have known regular patients to have found out. Or even more likely a disruption in the spine at a point affecting the nerves that go down the legs.

Every cell in our bodies is replaced at varying rates over roughly a 3 month period we are not the same person we were 6 months ago. You can regenerate a damaged diseased body and continue poisoning it, or you can get the toxins out of your body, exercise and mobilise your spine, and improve or ward off illnesses.

A child has a mild fever what do they do... give it Child dose Tylanol one of the worst drugs on the planet to suppress the bodies self help mechanisms.

A fever is the bodies way of COMBATING viruses etc. The body is smart. For every degree the body's temperature rises its immune system doubles it's efficiency. If a child/person has a fever and is shaking the body is trying to increase temperature.... wrap the person up... If they are sweating tap them down with tepid cloths, the body is trying to cool down. The body is smart. Help it, don't try to be more clever than a bio system that has evolved over thousands of years.

During the fever if they have been sweating change and wash the bed linen and their clothes, as the body will reabsorb many of the toxins the body just excreted.

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#26 Oct 15, 2018 10:49 am

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Expat wrote:

"America is one of the sickest Nations in the World, with Chronic weight problems, Chronic allergy problems, Chronic psychological issues etc etc. It has the highest medical costs in the World. Tablets that can be bought for cents on the dollar in Saudi of all places cost a couple of hundred bucks in the States because of your wonderful insurance schemes. What the market bears you pay."

And yet I have access to far more and far better health care than you do in Grenada or anyone in Britain.  If I want to see a doctor, I can set an appointment and see doctor in an hour.  I never wait.   I have access to University Hospitals and the Mayo Clinic is only three hours away.  I have access to the most advanced care in every category.  There are two major hospitals less than a mile from where I am sitting.  When my son broke his collarbone last June he was in and out of the hospital in just under two hours.  I have good insurance and wouldn't trade my system for your broke-dick socialized medicine scheme to save a few bucks. 

Don't believe everything you hear about abused Americans.  Most of us have it far better than you ever did.

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#27 Oct 15, 2018 2:23 pm

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Broken collar bone might take a while while they deal with a burning tower block or some other disaster, but have a heart attack or a bust appendix and you is done and through.... for free.... well, for your NH contributions... there are no free lunches in this World.

You have faith in Doctors.... and in limited terms so do I.... But I have increasingly become aware that the vast majority of interventions are to the final detriment of the patient.  Properly correctly prescribed medicines have killed thousands, again part of one of those elusive reports by this respected medical body or that.  I really am going to have to take screen shots to be able to report back on these stats rather than just blurting them out.

Just recently we went to the Doc to organise some full spinaL AND CERVICAL SPINE X-RAYS. AS A DISCUSSION POINT TO MAKE THE dOCTOR FEEL LESS ABUSED, WE TOLD HIM ABOUT A COUGHING EPISODE (caps) my wife had had... He actually put his fingers on the root cause which had been cutting up hot spices... and prescribed ANTIBIOTICS... which screw your gut flora and leave you more open to attack as 80% of your immune system is in your gut. We had the x-rays which provided us intimate knowledge of why certain issues were occurring that have been treated with thousands of dollars of medicine... unnecessarily.

You can take your doctors and many scans etc and stick em where the sun don't shine.

You need a spinal MRI... OK lay down there sir.... and take a bloody useless picture because the spine is affected by gravity and resistance from the table you are laying on. Spinal MRI/x-rays for structure should be taken standing up, so the spine is in compression. Any other way is useless.... yet every day how many thousands are done?

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#28 Oct 15, 2018 3:27 pm

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Everybody in Britain pays for their medical care.  They pay out their asses.  Don't pretend they don't.

The nice thing about the American system is that I get to decide if I want an MRI, not some government bureaucrat.

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#29 Oct 15, 2018 4:28 pm

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"The nice thing about the American system is that I get to decide if I want an MRI, not some government bureaucrat."

The crazy thing about the American system is that thanks to a constant barrage of TV ads, ordinary idiots go to their docs and insist on the type of meds they want, because "it looks good on the ad", and the doc is only too happy to oblige because big pharma is paying them to prescribe. Believe me I have LOTS of RECENT experience with the NHS with a family member, and it's not some "government bureaucrat" who decides your health care, it's doctors. I can't sing the praises of the NHS high enough, gimmie that system ANY day.

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#30 Oct 15, 2018 5:44 pm

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Yeah, free people shouldn't have a voice in their treatment.  It's better if a government employee tells you what it is going to be. 

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