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#1 Oct 18, 2018 4:34 pm

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Five Jesuses Before Jesus

Unfortunately I didn't get the citation for this:

Historians and religious scholars know that religious texts are made up of a series of myths (that’s not to say they are not true, but just that they are mythical stories). These myths appear across different religions and eras, and the same stories repeat themselves over and over again throughout history. Today, I will present to you five near-identical “Jesus” myths that predate Jesus Christ. For example, anyone who has ever read The Epic of Gilgamesh will know that many biblical stories are plucked straight from the story, including the flood myth and the virgin birth myth.

1. Horus (3100 B.C.)
Horus was one of the many Egyptian Gods. This is probably one of the best-known and contested deities that is often compared to Jesus Christ. Some translations and Egyptian myths say that he had 12 disciples, and was born of a virgin in a cave. His birth was announced by a star, and was attended by three wise men. He was baptized at age thirty byAnup the Baptizer. Horus performed miracles, including rising at least one person from the dead and walking on water. He was crucified, buried in a tomb, and resurrected, just like Jesus Christ.

2. Buddha (563 B.C.)

Buddha’s mother, Queen Maha Maya, had a dream that a white elephant with six tusks entered her right side, impregnating her. As was tradition in this time, the mother left her husband’s kingdom to give birth near her father. She did not make it the entire way, though, and gave birth while traveling. Buddha was born in a garden beneath a tree. In addition to this birth story, Buddha, like Jesus, also performed miracles, healed the sick, walked on water, fed 500 men from a single basket of cakes, was transfigured on a mount, and taught chastity, temperance, tolerance, compassion, love, and the equality of all. There are also some texts that say he was crucified, spent three days in hell, and was resurrected. That is not what killed him, though, as he died in his old age from what is believed to be food poisoning.

3. Mithra (2000 B.C.)

Mithra was an ancient Zoroastrian deity, and along with Horus has some of the most striking similarities to Jesus. Yet another example of virginal birth, Mithra was born to the virgin Anahita on December 25th. He was swaddled and placed in a manger, where he was tended to by shepherds. Like Jesus and Horus, he had 12 companions (which can be interpreted as disciples). He also performed miracles, identified with both the lion and the lamb, sacrificed his life to save the world, was dead for three days before being resurrected, and was known as the messiah, the savior, and “the Way, the Truth and the Light.” His religion also had a Eucharistic-style “Lord’s supper.”

4. Krishna (around 3000 B.C.)

Krishna, a Hindu God, was born after his mother was impregnated by a God. His birth was attended by angels, wise men, and shepherds, and he was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Like Jesus, when Krishna was born, a tyrant had ordered the slaughter of all newborns. In addition, he was baptized in a river, performed miracles, raised the dead, healed the deaf and blind, used parables to teach charity and love, rose from the dead and ascended to heaven, and it is believe he will someday return to earth to battle the “Prince of Evil.”

5. Osiris (around 2500 B.C.)

Osiris was the son of one of the many Egyptian Gods. Like Jesus, Osiris was portrayed as a bearded man, and his myth says that he was killed and the resurrected after three days in hell. Also like Jesus, Osiris performed miracles, had 12 disciples, and taught that people could be born again through baptism in water. In addition, Osiris had many titles, including “Lord of Lords,” “King of Kings,” and “Good Shepherd.”

There are many more religious figures who have multiple similarities to Jesus, including Odysseus, Romulus, Dionysus, Heracles, Glycon, and others. Mythical stories depicting the virginal births of the sons of Gods go back millennia, most likely predating the advent of writing. Ancient myths neither prove nor disprove the existence of the Christian deity Jesus, but they certainly bring about some interesting questions, and I’m not sure that any of these questions will ever be answered.

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#2 Oct 18, 2018 5:04 pm

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Religion is simply the graphical user interface that gives us access to an operating system that would otherwise be far too difficult for us to comprehend.  Evidently this particular GUI is particularly helpful over the eons.  These are allegories and metaphors that help us touch, feel and access Divinity that would otherwise be beyond our reach.  Christ is particularly effective for people of my culture.

Others take other routes to God.

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#3 Oct 18, 2018 8:33 pm

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What it says to me is that there's been a long line of claimants of being The Messiah, all of them charlatans who've followed a well-worn path. And "we" fall for it every time, but fortunately there's more of "we", that see religion for the mass delusion that it is.

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#4 Oct 18, 2018 10:47 pm

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New Historian wrote:

What it says to me is that there's been a long line of claimants of being The Messiah, all of them charlatans who've followed a well-worn path. And "we" fall for it every time, but fortunately there's more of "we", that see religion for the mass delusion that it is.


Oh GAaaad, It's RD bating week.... Just like bear bating it should be banned.... smile

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#5 Oct 19, 2018 6:39 am

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New Historian wrote:

What it says to me is that there's been a long line of claimants of being The Messiah, all of them charlatans who've followed a well-worn path. And "we" fall for it every time, but fortunately there's more of "we", that see religion for the mass delusion that it is.

Yeah, some people can't see it.

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#6 Oct 19, 2018 7:56 am

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Lord  !   Why is it left to me to point out the essence of believing in a supreme being.
RD  - the new finder of Jesus  and Sunday school teacher  'let me down'
Expat and New Historian , true to form .

Now  ,,,,,, How can I say this about New Historian's   ' 5 Jesuses before Jesus.'
Lots of Jesuses eh ? Lots of Gods too , so many we have to stop counting , Sun , Moon , Money ...

Well  ...... let me try

How is Jesus different from other religious leaders.
...... is like asking how   our Sun differs from other stars in our Solar System ::::: The point being , they are no other stars in our Solar System
""' NO other religious leader can compare to Jesus Christ . Every other religious leader is either alive or dead.
... Jesus  is the only one who was dead  and is now alive. INDEED he said he is alive for evermore .
SO  .... Sacrifice  and Salvation   ...... KEY   (communion classes)
Sacrifice for all of us
Salvation  in no one else.

Only Jesus claimed to be the son of God , fully God , fully man.
Paul said ; if Christ was not raised from the dead,  then our faith is empty and we are still in our sins  (denial)

Lord !!!! preacher Dancer.
smh . lol.

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#7 Oct 19, 2018 8:11 am

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Dancer wrote:

Lord  !   Why is it left to me to point out the essence of believing in a supreme being.
RD  - the new finder of Jesus  and Sunday school teacher  'let me down'
Expat and New Historian , true to form .

Now  ,,,,,, How can I say this about New Historian's   ' 5 Jesuses before Jesus.'
Lots of Jesuses eh ? Lots of Gods too , so many we have to stop counting , Sun , Moon , Money ...

Well  ...... let me try

How is Jesus different from other religious leaders.
...... is like asking how   our Sun differs from other stars in our Solar System ::::: The point being , they are no other stars in our Solar System
""' NO other religious leader can compare to Jesus Christ . Every other religious leader is either alive or dead.
... Jesus  is the only one who was dead  and is now alive. INDEED he said he is alive for evermore .
SO  .... Sacrifice  and Salvation   ...... KEY   (communion classes)
Sacrifice for all of us
Salvation  in no one else.

Only Jesus claimed to be the son of God , fully God , fully man.
Paul said ; if Christ was not raised from the dead,  then our faith is empty and we are still in our sins  (denial)

Lord !!!! preacher Dancer.
smh . lol.


Last line said it all.

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#8 Oct 19, 2018 9:24 am

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"Only Jesus claimed to be the son of God"

Not so, Jesus never made that claim, those who came after manufactured that myth. Jesus said "I am the son of Man".

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#10 Oct 19, 2018 10:35 am

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