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#1 Mar 23, 2020 3:15 pm

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Racism rearing it's ugly head.

Just went to a local supermarket, and while passing into the store I heard a "Yout" talking about a white woman at one of the check outs about 5 yard in front of him to his  equally dumb arsed buddies.... "get she white ass out of here". Chuckle chuckle.

Can anyone else see a potential for hysteria and reprisals when the shit starts to fly?

Now, seems to me, that our infected lady visitor from Birch Grove is far more likely to be of local origin. Maybe he should be looking closer to home.

Also despite the warnings on the news I didn't see too many people really making an effort to keep away from each other. As I headed into the hospital to pick up a test result a ? patient walks straight up to the security no more than 2 feet face to face to ask a question. Neither remotely worried about proximity.

The receptionist at the test area has no gloves or mask. White coated personnel sits next to receptionist and chats minus any protection while their report was printed. Seriously guys stop it before it gets out of hand. Those white coats are no defence. the bugs don't care, and sitting next to a front line worker means you could be passing it onto patients. FFS use your brains.

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#2 Mar 23, 2020 4:22 pm

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That's unfortunate, and yes the potential for social unrest is going to become huge. In a very short time a ton of people are going to have NO MONEY, and we know what a hungry man is. Crisis brings out the best but also the worst within us, and for a lot of people, their worst is VERY bad.

Hunker down guys. Lock your doors. Keep your dogs close.

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#3 Mar 23, 2020 5:04 pm

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Re: Racism rearing it's ugly head.

New Historian wrote:

That's unfortunate, and yes the potential for social unrest is going to become huge. In a very short time a ton of people are going to have NO MONEY, and we know what a hungry man is. Crisis brings out the best but also the worst within us, and for a lot of people, their worst is VERY bad.

Hunker down guys. Lock your doors. Keep your dogs close.

But that the world in which we live. No respect for differences.

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#4 Mar 24, 2020 10:01 am

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Same thing here.  The governor of my state got so FRIGGING vex yesterday, that now he close all business, with the exception of emergency. Ran outa cigarettes this morning drove to ah few Gas stations and they were all close, but the one closest to me is Wide open.

Ah just think folks should think. A family member is staying with me for ah little while, yesterday she went out and bought salad from an Open Salad bar.  Really?


You know Expat, Grenadian just like to talk, are they racist? Ah really doh know.  Too many times me and me wife sat at restaurant and was there first before many white couples and would you know it, they pass us straight and  to the white folks.

It was so damn blatant one time at the Rex, we had to lodge ah complain.

Only last year, wife and I went to Grenada Beach resort for dinner, we were ahead of the line waiting on someone to come to us, the waiter walk by us and went straight to the white couple that was behind us.

Yes ah heard the insult they threw at you that day, but were they really serious?  Ah doh know.  Grenadians are deeply in love with white folks, despite their rhetoric.

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#5 Mar 24, 2020 2:05 pm

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I really don't think so.

There are those that appreciate what more recent immigrants have brought to the Island, and how it benefits everyone, and then there is the backayard empty vessel by the rum shop who talks total bollocks just to hear his own voice, the latter will also have no clue what benefits to the economy the businesses and pensions coming into the Island brings.  He will more likely think of Black Power, downpresser men, and be pissed that those whites "seem" to be rolling in money, and his pockets are empty.

You were ignored because locals in the majority defer to the Whites. I don't want it, don't like it, and don't expect it. Sometimes it goes the other way and you sense the hostility, even in normal situations. But often a sour demeanour is replaced by a smile after the person gets to know you.

It seems so strange thanafter all these years of tourists, and mixed marriages abroad that locals still seem to accept the whites as just men. If I am called by strangers, it may be big man, which I accept is used for most folk, but more often than not it will be WHITE man. I am pretty sure if folks in the states just yelled Black Man you would be pissed.

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#6 Mar 24, 2020 2:14 pm

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I really don't think so.

There are those that appreciate what more recent immigrants have brought to the Island, and how it benefits everyone, and then there is the backayard empty vessel by the rum shop who talks total bollocks just to hear his own voice, the latter will also have no clue what benefits to the economy the businesses and pensions coming into the Island brings.  He will more likely think of Black Power, downpresser men, and be pissed that those whites "seem" to be rolling in money, and his pockets are empty.

You were ignored because locals in the majority defer to the Whites. I don't want it, don't like it, and don't expect it. Sometimes it goes the other way and you sense the hostility, even in normal situations. But often a sour demeanour is replaced by a smile after the person gets to know you.

It seems so strange that after all these years of tourists, and mixed marriages abroad that locals still dont seem to accept the whites as just men. If I am called by strangers, it may be big man, which I accept is used for most folk, but more often than not it will be WHITE man. I am pretty sure if folks in the states just yelled Black Man you would be pissed.

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#7 Mar 24, 2020 2:41 pm

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Expat wrote:

I really don't think so.

There are those that appreciate what more recent immigrants have brought to the Island, and how it benefits everyone, and then there is the backayard empty vessel by the rum shop who talks total bollocks just to hear his own voice, the latter will also have no clue what benefits to the economy the businesses and pensions coming into the Island brings.  He will more likely think of Black Power, downpresser men, and be pissed that those whites "seem" to be rolling in money, and his pockets are empty.

You were ignored because locals in the majority defer to the Whites. I don't want it, don't like it, and don't expect it. Sometimes it goes the other way and you sense the hostility, even in normal situations. But often a sour demeanour is replaced by a smile after the person gets to know you.

It seems so strange that after all these years of tourists, and mixed marriages abroad that locals still dont seem to accept the whites as just men. If I am called by strangers, it may be big man, which I accept is used for most folk, but more often than not it will be WHITE man. I am pretty sure if folks in the states just yelled Black Man you would be pissed.

If I got vex every time someone called me "Hey Red Man!", I'd be constantly vex! But it's not done in a bad way, they don't know you, and they want to catch your attention. My brother who lives in UK is always shocked at the matter-of-fact "racialism" he sees in the Caribbean, where we, literally, call a spade a spade lol! Once I was waiting to take out some passport pics and the photographer came out:

"Who's next? You, or this red man?"

I cracked up, yes, the red man.

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#8 Mar 24, 2020 3:14 pm

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Re: Racism rearing it's ugly head.

How are you a red man?  I don't understand. School me, bro.

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#9 Mar 24, 2020 3:45 pm

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Expat I bet once they know you are an English, they change automatically.  For some stupid reason, they prefer White English than Americans.  They hate black Americans just as much as whites.

I am serious, they just used names, ah doh think it is hate. Ah tell you, me son came down there with me one year, and they were shocked about his behavior.  They just cant get it their heads, that all Black Americans are the same.

Look if they were that racist, they would of kill ah bunch ah white folks by now. White folks walk all over Grenada alone anytime of the day or night.

I think it is ignorance rather than racism.  Grenada is a class society, than that ah racist society.

Folks tell me who ah should lime with.  I remind them, that I am an Vola and ah lime with any damn person I want.

Yesterday ah made ah comment about seeing ah woman in Real Value shopping, and while other folks in that store carts was filled with American products, she had back and neck on her cart and Pig's Feet.  I simple said if she was smarth she would go Food Fair and Food King to buy that stuff.  Well me wife jump on me backside, who are you to tell her where to shop?

What ah was trying to say was, Real Value do not cater to local Grenadians.  They cater to folks like Expat and NH.

They are ignorant, not racist.  There is ah white guy, just one who resides in ah place called Argyle and another called To-co-bay, they treat them as Gods.

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#10 Mar 24, 2020 3:50 pm

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Re: Racism rearing it's ugly head.

Real Distwalker wrote:

How are you a red man?  I don't understand. School me, bro.

Okay, here comes Caribbean race 101:

Historically, the emerging West Indian middle class were "people of colour", ie mixed race descended from white slave owners and their unwilling "property". These were the overseers and book keepers, who were educated and given some social mobility. But only some, have you ever heard of the paper-bag test?Sporting and social clubs that were reserved for whites would metaphorically hold up a brown paper bag up next to the applicant's face, and if he was lighter than the bag, welcome. Otherwise...

Leaping forward to today, all Caribbean countries are predominantly Black, with a small brown middle class, and an upper crust of white and Chinese business owners and professionals. In Jamaica "the 22 families" controlled 80% of the economy. The exceptions to this are Guyana and Trinidad, where East Asians (Indians or, at worst, Coolies!) make up 50% of the population.

So, "red people" are a thing; nowadays there's a sort of inverse paper bag test: if you not Black enough - you red!! It really isn't as offensive as it sounds, it's just us calling it like it is. Unlike, on the other hand, South Africa and Zimbabwe, where they take racial classifications to the Nth degree! Or Brasil, where they have about 200 words used to describe a person's colour, including cappucino, expresso and dark chocolate lol!!

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