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#1 May 26, 2020 7:11 pm

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India is going to have the worst number of cases and probably the highest death rate.

I hope not, it's bad enough with America trying to be best at everything. It is after all peoples lives we are talking about.

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#2 May 27, 2020 9:21 am

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Again, it is hard to tell who is worst.  A nation that engages in a lot of testing and dutifully reports every death looks terrible.  Conversely, a nation that does little testing and doesn't have the desire or means to report deaths looks like they are doing great.

Example: Switzerland looks terrible and North Korea has no cases and no deaths.

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#3 May 27, 2020 1:52 pm

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However the info is obtained, or under reported, America has peaked but continues to jolly along because everyone wants to exercise their civil liberties regardless of who they kill along the way.

India has such atrocious living conditions, and lack of medical facilities for vast swathes of the population. Their daily figures ... reported correctly or not, are exponentially increasing, and with their population load it is very likely they will go into meltdown. JMO.

They are already just under European countries, it wont take many days to match Russia, and head for the top of the Trump challenge tree.

It will be nice to see the UK slip a bit lower in the ratings. They seem to be trying so hard to stay up there though.

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#4 May 27, 2020 7:37 pm

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If we had access to perfect information, I'd bet a thousand dollars China has a greater number of deaths and a higher death rate than the US.

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#5 May 27, 2020 8:17 pm

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You keep on with this, but I think you are completely off beam. I am not saying they did not have more cases that stated, but unlike America which has done just about everything it could to maximize the problem... Unforgivable considering America was not the first country to get it, and thus had the opportunity to learn from the ones that did.

They are not in isolation, they have people from what they might call foreign teaching in universities and the like. They can only do so much hood winking.

The fact is they dallied with passing on the information for a short period trying to keep the lid on things. They then started an agressive program of isolating sections of Wuhan blocking off whole communities. Plus they instinctively wear masks as they remember the previous outbreaks that occurred.

With the exception of not stopping people from flying out and giving the rest of us the virus they did pretty much all the right things.

Even now they have had a few new cases, mostly it seems from reintroduction from people returning to China, but they have it down i the low numbers hardly making a bump, and they are aggressive with controls.

Seems to me your bill of rights is going to be the death of you.

Yes our lot are definitely overdoing it, and I am getting pissed off with the level of restriction. But better to be pissed off and alive, than waving a sheet of paper around declaring your rights only to either contract the virus and die, or even less acceptable giving it to other people for them to die while you recover.

It's so bloody obvious that all the countries that took time figuring out what to do paid the price, and poor countries with poor administrations are getting clobbered, while others you see a blip, and then it either goes to nothing, or very low numbers.

America has simply been an example of how not to do it, and it seems to me they are continuing to do it crazy wrong.

You watch current footage of States that have been given some license to loosen up, and a clump of people go to a bar and socialise with no masks and no distance. And then wonder why they have got over 100,000 dead.

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#6 May 27, 2020 8:47 pm

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I am not saying it isn't a problem but, damn, I know a lot of people and I know exactly one person who had it - and it was very mild - and nobody who died.  I don't even know anyone who has told me they know someone who has died.  Nobody in my company has had it.  Nobody in my American Legion post has had it.  Nobody in my church has had it.  Nobody in my extended family has had it.

Again, I am not saying it isn't serious but, were it not for news reports, you couldn't even prove it was happening by asking me.

You love to hack on the US but we are far from the worst.


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#7 May 27, 2020 9:52 pm

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It's a form of flu that will never go away, so get used to it world.
The fear factor created by authorities has caused a lot of damage.
Seems now, the authorities are having trouble reversing that spread of fear.

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#8 May 27, 2020 9:57 pm

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I agree Houston.

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#9 May 27, 2020 10:41 pm

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Tick tock tick tock.

A while back you told us something very similar, since then maybe 80,000 more Americans have died.

While some States are going down, others are going up, and when the bright boys (neanderthals) go and congregate and the schools spread it around to the families the numbers are going to kick off even more than they are at the moment.

You seem to see everything as what affects you. Because your immediate circle has been lucky it doesn't exist or is over publicised... WRONG.

Likewise none of my immediate circle has died of it. But a nephew who is a Doctor had it, a Granddaughter who is kidney compromised got it, and my stepfather who is in an old peoples home where fortunately the 2 cases which had it were in the isolated dementia section. In 2 out of those 3 cases it is damn lucky it wasn't terminal. I know that at least 80 odd Grenadians abroad have dies of it. Not that I knew them myself, but the Diaspora is connected.

For the 100,000 and what was it 126 American families so far it is real, for the 37000 odd British families it is real, and while the jerk offs ignore safety protocols because a fat, elevated healed, twat who cant even stand like a normal human being doesn't want to ruffle his few remaining hairs so won't wear a mask the brightest Americans out there think it's OK to copy the President, who is taking a potentially dangerous drug which causes arrhythmia among other things to ward it off while his butler, and advisers fall like nine pins.

No this thing is not going away soon because too many people are too stupid to let it.

You love these per million graphs, but at the end of the day its each grieving family that counts, and buddy you have the most, and the numbers are going up, not down.

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#10 May 27, 2020 10:52 pm

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According to the CDC, Iowa has had 360 fewer deaths in 2020 than they had in the same period during 2019. 

In any case, there is a new threat in the world.  There is a pandemic ongoing.  I am aware of it and doing what I can but I am going to carry on with my life.  I am not going to get all maudlin about the deaths.  People die in pandemics.  Nobody can stop that.  I am going to accept an increased risk in my life and get on with things.

You can sit down there in your little fool's paradise and wag your crooked old finger at the world but it won't matter.  Life goes on and I intend to live mine.

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