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#1 Jul 09, 2020 8:37 am

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SECTION EIGHT HOUSING, WHEN IT IS ON DOOR STEP IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY

Sometime ago there was a big thing  in  state about  Section Eight housing. There were some serious debate about allowing them to reside in any neighbor in the state.  I think the idea, was to take them out from poor hoods and let them see, how other folks live.

I did not take a side on that topic, maybe; ah was leaning towards them being in different neighbor hoods.  The bill is now law and they can reside in any part of Maryland.

I now do not like that bill, ah hate it.  All my life ah work hard sometimes doing three jobs.  Me and me wife work hard for everything thing we got.  We decided, that we are going to have maybe two and ah half kids.  Why? Because that is all we can afford.  Why the F#@K should I pay for folks who decided, that I am going to have six kids even doh ah know I cant afford them.

Now this family moved on my street,  six F@#KING kids and have ah four bedroom house and paying less than ah $100 ah month.  Immediately we can see the change on our street.  Last night at about 8 30pm he and and another crazy looking guy decided to mow his lawn. At 9pm, me and another family went to him and said there is ah noise ordinance in Baltimore County and it is too late to mow your lawn.

All kinda crazy looking folks are now on our street.  The driveway to their house is as filthy as can be.  Yesterday the neighbor who is closest to them, told me there are FRIGGING BIG RATS coming from their house.

How on earth can that be fair?  Dont you know you must work to survive?

This is when ah do not like the US government.  Young folks like that should not be given no damn assistance.  take the kids from them if they cant take care of them.  This is just not fair.

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#2 Jul 09, 2020 10:23 am

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Slice, we have to understand that life is uneven in the distribution of talents and opportunities among and between people of all races. Some of us are not as blessed as others particularly financially (which unfortunately seems to be the main measure of a person's true worth in the eyes of many).

So, government assistance to those with fewer capabilities and resources is a necessity. That, Slice, is true in many societies both capitalist-oriented and those that follow a socialistic construct. Admittedly, though, the government assistance beneficiaries seem to get much more heavily criticized in the U.S.

On reading your post, two key ideas resonated with me. One is your objection to helping the underprivileged. I came to that conclusion because your disgust at your new government-assisted neighbor came through much stronger than the lukewarm way in which you seemed to care about persons in need. The other is that the problem with your new neighbor may be a housekeeping challenge given what you said were "FRIGGING BIG RATS coming from their house".

There is a third point, Slice. It is rather disturbing. You stated that "All kinda crazy looking folks are now on our street." You imply that those "crazy looking folks" are associated with your new neighbor. Is it possible that you are wrong? Even if you are not, what gives you the liberty to judge people merely by their LOOKS. That is a slippery slope, Slice. We have to be careful in our interactions with others. Stereotyping is often terribly problematic.

Be very thankful for your and your wife's blessings; but, do not lift your nose too high above your head as you try to coexist with your fellow human being. Why is that important, Slice? MATERIAL wealth is fleeting and, really, NOT as important as valuing one's neighbors.

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#3 Jul 09, 2020 10:43 am

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Having lived in Socially supported 'Council Housing' with 2 of my ladies, I can assure you MANY of those getting all those benefits have little or no regard for their environment, the "normal" standard of living is not in their comprehension. Vast generalisation, there are good and bad everywhere. But people who have strived and sacrificed to get things value them much more 'generally' than those that pick up the welfare cheque. Especially those born into a welfare family, their sights are set low from the outset.

Things can happen. People can become one parent families when a partner dies. But this is far different from a woman making children for every new boyfriend in the hope being a father will hold them, while the taxes pick up the cheque.

While I am not against the State supporting those the disadvantaged, I can understand Slices frustration at having a bunch of tinkers moving in down the road.

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#4 Jul 09, 2020 1:14 pm

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gripe wrote:

Slice, we have to understand that life is uneven in the distribution of talents and opportunities among and between people of all races. Some of us are not as blessed as others particularly financially (which unfortunately seems to be the main measure of a person's true worth in the eyes of many).

So, government assistance to those with fewer capabilities and resources is a necessity. That, Slice, is true in many societies both capitalist-oriented and those that follow a socialistic construct. Admittedly, though, the government assistance beneficiaries seem to get much more heavily criticized in the U.S.

On reading your post, two key ideas resonated with me. One is your objection to helping the underprivileged. I came to that conclusion because your disgust at your new government-assisted neighbor came through much stronger than the lukewarm way in which you seemed to care about persons in need. The other is that the problem with your new neighbor may be a housekeeping challenge given what you said were "FRIGGING BIG RATS coming from their house".

There is a third point, Slice. It is rather disturbing. You stated that "All kinda crazy looking folks are now on our street." You imply that those "crazy looking folks" are associated with your new neighbor. Is it possible that you are wrong? Even if you are not, what gives you the liberty to judge people merely by their LOOKS. That is a slippery slope, Slice. We have to be careful in our interactions with others. Stereotyping is often terribly problematic.

Be very thankful for your and your wife's blessings; but, do not lift your nose too high above your head as you try to coexist with your fellow human being. Why is that important, Slice? MATERIAL wealth is fleeting and, really, NOT as important as valuing one's neighbors.

  Maybe I have to right to talk about the American system; because after all I was not born here.   Here is what ah just do not get, I use to like working.  I would do any kind of job to make a buck.  I do not care what it was I would work. I love working and was so damn dedicated to my job, that Wifee use to call me Triangle head ( symbols for wha ah use to work) I do not look down on  folks, but when you see ah young couple, with no signs of handicapped, and all they are doing is drinking, liming and making babies, that I have to take care of, is very disgusting.  How can you not want better for you and your family?  What kinda person have six babies and no means to take care of them? No I am complaining about their hygiene and their laziness. I have not ah thing.  Listen one of me neighbors are biracial and ah swear they have the cleanest house on the block.  These folks spend hours taking care of their property and to let someone that do not give ah sheet  come in and destroy it is ah blasted shame.

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#5 Jul 09, 2020 1:16 pm

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Expat wrote:

Having lived in Socially supported 'Council Housing' with 2 of my ladies, I can assure you MANY of those getting all those benefits have little or no regard for their environment, the "normal" standard of living is not in their comprehension. Vast generalisation, there are good and bad everywhere. But people who have strived and sacrificed to get things value them much more 'generally' than those that pick up the welfare cheque. Especially those born into a welfare family, their sights are set low from the outset.

Things can happen. People can become one parent families when a partner dies. But this is far different from a woman making children for every new boyfriend in the hope being a father will hold them, while the taxes pick up the cheque.

While I am not against the State supporting those the disadvantaged, I can understand Slices frustration at having a bunch of tinkers moving in down the road.

Maybe now is the time to start thinking about moving.  Very frustrating.

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#6 Jul 09, 2020 8:46 pm

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For shits and giggles I have to ask.

What colour are these street wreckers?

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#7 Jul 09, 2020 9:36 pm

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No that's not for shits and giggles, it's direct insult to many that are tired of comments that are meant to be funny in a subdued way.
Don't you get it? Enough is enough...it's not a joke anymore.
Believe me, I have seen plenty of white trash hooligan street wreckers not worthy of a cardboard box to sleep in.

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#8 Jul 09, 2020 11:16 pm

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houston wrote:

No that's not for shits and giggles, it's direct insult to many that are tired of comments that are meant to be funny in a subdued way.
Don't you get it? Enough is enough...it's not a joke anymore.
Believe me, I have seen plenty of white trash hooligan street wreckers not worthy of a cardboard box to sleep in.

You didn't see where I was going with that, naturally you jumped negatively on the race card.

I was anticipating it was the same white trash you are talking about, ergo when Slice reported back, I was going to say the tables have been reversed and it is now black flight, as he was talking about moving out.

Being prepared and expecting to be insulted seems to be the Black norm, which is why interracial dialogue can be so difficult. Chose who you want to be offended by carefully.

As the same Slice has told us he has had very insulting conversations with work colleagues where no one took offense, because they knew it was tongue in cheek. I insult a white friend of mine in ways most recipients might try and deck me for.... Why, apart from simple stupidity, because he will give as good as he gets, and we understand each other.

If after all the interactions you've seen here, and you claimed to have learned so much from you can't figure out who is friend or foe, then you have been wasting your time.

Probably apart from figures from the distant past the person I have had for literally decades the most spats with would be RD, yet he has been a blinding bloke, and helped me, and I believe others too, behind the scenes, and given the unlikely opportunity I would not think twice about doing the same thing. Just as we can go hammer and tongues on one topic, and agree heartily on another. Although those are more rare, as I am a provoking sod.

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#9 Jul 10, 2020 11:25 am

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Expat wrote:

For shits and giggles I have to ask.

What colour are these street wreckers?

Black.

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#10 Jul 10, 2020 12:53 pm

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Slice wrote:
Expat wrote:

For shits and giggles I have to ask.

What colour are these street wreckers?

Black.


Uh well, that just knocked my little intended joke on it's head. sad

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