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#1 Jul 21, 2020 4:31 pm

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Horror in Haiti

From the very first minute of landing in Port-au-Prince Airport, your senses are assailed by the staggering poverty. Simply getting out of the airport is traumatic enough. Clutching your baggage tightly, you follow your driver through a throng of clutching hands begging for loose change or a chance to carry your bag. With the crowds and the oppressive heat you’re drenched with sweat (most of it not yours) by the time you reach your car, invariably to be told that the air conditioning doesn’t work. To get out of the car park you drive through an even larger crowd, feeling guilty about closing the window (more heat), and trying not to make contact with the eyes behind desperate, outstretched hands.

The streets of Port-au-Prince are pitted with enormous potholes full of brown, fetid water. I saw a woman bathing her baby in one of these stink-holes. I have never seen a more overcrowded city than Port-au-Prince, millions of people spilling over into the streets, selling all sorts of everything among the gridlocked cars. And the stench from the sewage! When I got home after each Haiti trip my wife would open my suitcase and go: phew!

I was driving in a taxi to the airport, stuck in slow-moving traffic behind an articulated tanker. As usual the sidewalks were packed with people weaving around the potholes, and as the tanker swung into a tight right-hand corner a man and woman emerged from behind a wall, to come face to face with this behemoth bearing down on them. The driver showed no sign of seeing them or caring about their existence, inches from his front bumper.

The man and woman tried to back away but their feet got tangled up, and the truck’s back wheels trapped first the woman’s then the man’s feet under its giant tyre. I screamed a futile warning knowing what was to come. Right in front of my terrified eyes the truck slowly crushed both people under its enormous wheels, killing them instantly. It was horrific, I screamed to the taxi driver to stop but he would have none of it. In truth what could I have done anyway? I was still shaking when the plane took off.

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#2 Jul 21, 2020 5:06 pm

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Wow.  Just... wow.

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#3 Jul 22, 2020 9:10 am

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Is this all you saw in Haiti--the horror? Haiti is one of the most fascinating countries in Latin America. It began as a dictatorship and has continued its political path up to modern times. Haiti is very beautiful and very hilly. If it were developed, it would have been the prettiest country in the Caribbean region. America's occupation did not build the country during WWI and not the dictatorships of the Duvalier government.  I am sorry that it has not reached its potential. The people are charming and the men are the most beautiful in the hemisphere. Hotel Oloffson is immortalized by Graham Green in the book and movie, The Comedians, starring Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. The hotel was a favorite of movie stars in the '60s.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_MfBia4zWI

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#4 Jul 22, 2020 9:37 am

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ZZzzzzz    LoL   smile

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#5 Jul 22, 2020 9:41 am

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Calypso wrote:

Is this all you saw in Haiti--the horror? Haiti is one of the most fascinating countries in Latin America. It began as a dictatorship and has continued its political path up to modern times. Haiti is very beautiful and very hilly. If it were developed, it would have been the prettiest country in the Caribbean region. America's occupation did not build the country during WWI and not the dictatorships of the Duvalier government.  I am sorry that it has not reached its potential. The people are charming and the men are the most beautiful in the hemisphere. Hotel Oloffson is immortalized by Graham Green in the book and movie, The Comedians, starring Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. The hotel was a favorite of movie stars in the '60s.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_MfBia4zWI

And yet some Grenadian friends who went there on holiday have more than once said it felt very hostile to them.... Me I know nutting, just repeating what I heard.

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#6 Jul 22, 2020 10:02 am

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Calypso wrote:

Is this all you saw in Haiti--the horror? Haiti is one of the most fascinating countries in Latin America. It began as a dictatorship and has continued its political path up to modern times. Haiti is very beautiful and very hilly. If it were developed, it would have been the prettiest country in the Caribbean region. America's occupation did not build the country during WWI and not the dictatorships of the Duvalier government.  I am sorry that it has not reached its potential. The people are charming and the men are the most beautiful in the hemisphere. Hotel Oloffson is immortalized by Graham Green in the book and movie, The Comedians, starring Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. The hotel was a favorite of movie stars in the '60s.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_MfBia4zWI


Funny how Calypso always rates a country by the beauty of its men! Poor thing, beautiful men must be in short supply in her life! smile

You ever been there? Yes I know all about Haiti's brave and sad past: skewered by France with the backing of Britain and USA, for daring to free itself from slavery. I know this from over a dozen visits over 25 years, and from reading CLR James' brilliant book The Black Jacobins. Not from a movie. God forgive me for saying something bad about Haiti without adding ten things good. Most of what's good about Haiti is in its past, good is in short supply nowadays.

When I was a student I went to an authentic Voudou ceremony in P-a-P, where me and three others were the only non-Haitians there, they told me to stop taking pictures but luckily I got off a few. I was there 3 years after the 2010 earthquake, and it was like it was 6 months ago. I've seen the beautiful, inspiring Le Marron Innconnu statue, outside the Presidential Palace, demolished post-earthquake.

Haiti is the poorest, saddest, most benighted country I've ever been to. And that's saying something. The fault can be squarely laid at three doors, in descending order:

France

USA

UK




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#7 Jul 22, 2020 10:40 am

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It is rather sad to think I know about Haiti from a movie. I have read and research a lot about Haiti. I read your profile and realize that you love to sail. Do you know anyone who would rent me a house for 6 week on Carriacou island?

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#8 Jul 22, 2020 10:51 am

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Not offhand but I'm sure you can get a ton of them online - especially now! Starting here:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/VacationRen … ntals.html

Don't book thru Air BnB, get the number and call directly. I could advise you on what location to stay at, don't ask Expat the silly fellow has never been there. There's notalot to do, which I guess is why you're going. Depending on how much you don't want to do, will influence where to stay. The "liveliest" (and I use that word advisedly!) place is Tyrell Bay, the sailing centre of the island with some nice beachside bars and restaurants. My good friend Barracuda, an Italian who sings Bob Marley as beautifully as he does pavarotti, has a great little place with live music.

Then you've got the Grenadines a stone's throw away. Six weeks? You'll love it - can I come?

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#9 Jul 22, 2020 1:10 pm

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Not offhand but I'm sure you can get a ton of them online - especially now! Starting here:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/VacationRen … ntals.html

Don't book thru Air BnB, get the number and call directly. I could advise you on what location to stay at, don't ask Expat the silly fellow has never been there. There's notalot to do, which I guess is why you're going. Depending on how much you don't want to do, will influence where to stay. The "liveliest" (and I use that word advisedly!) place is Tyrell Bay, the sailing centre of the island with some nice beachside bars and restaurants. My good friend Barracuda, an Italian who sings Bob Marley as beautifully as he does pavarotti, has a great little place with live music.

Then you've got the Grenadines a stone's throw away. Six weeks? You'll love it - can I come?

Yes, i saw a studio to rent on Tyrell iBay but the person only wanted the money. i wanted to ask him some questions first. Tyrell Bay is my choice.

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#10 Jul 22, 2020 2:24 pm

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New Historian wrote:
Calypso wrote:

Is this all you saw in Haiti--the horror? Haiti is one of the most fascinating countries in Latin America. It began as a dictatorship and has continued its political path up to modern times. Haiti is very beautiful and very hilly. If it were developed, it would have been the prettiest country in the Caribbean region. America's occupation did not build the country during WWI and not the dictatorships of the Duvalier government.  I am sorry that it has not reached its potential. The people are charming and the men are the most beautiful in the hemisphere. Hotel Oloffson is immortalized by Graham Green in the book and movie, The Comedians, starring Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. The hotel was a favorite of movie stars in the '60s.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_MfBia4zWI


Funny how Calypso always rates a country by the beauty of its men! Poor thing, beautiful men must be in short supply in her life! smile

You ever been there? Yes I know all about Haiti's brave and sad past: skewered by France with the backing of Britain and USA, for daring to free itself from slavery. I know this from over a dozen visits over 25 years, and from reading CLR James' brilliant book The Black Jacobins. Not from a movie. God forgive me for saying something bad about Haiti without adding ten things good. Most of what's good about Haiti is in its past, good is in short supply nowadays.

When I was a student I went to an authentic Voudou ceremony in P-a-P, where me and three others were the only non-Haitians there, they told me to stop taking pictures but luckily I got off a few. I was there 3 years after the 2010 earthquake, and it was like it was 6 months ago. I've seen the beautiful, inspiring Le Marron Innconnu statue, outside the Presidential Palace, demolished post-earthquake.

Haiti is the poorest, saddest, most benighted country I've ever been to. And that's saying something. The fault can be squarely laid at three doors, in descending order:

France

USA

UK




https://i.postimg.cc/NKL2nLGW/Voudou.jpg



https://i.postimg.cc/fV6ygKr9/PaP.jpg

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https://i.postimg.cc/BX7X2s5N/PaP3.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/RNZW3qtN/PaP4.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/94hV7NkJ/Marron-Inconnu.jpg

I do think Kaiso have ah man problem.  Sometime ago she said Italy.  Maybe she likes men that speaks French.  I know she dated ah Grenadian, but maybe she became Lord Kitchner.  From what ah heard Kitch dated ah Grenadian from Chantimelle,  She drop ah few horn in he backside, and after that he set out to destroy Grenada. Kaiso you know I am still available, when ah in Grenada.  Doh worry ah know way Expat and NH living, we staying far, far away from their areas.

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