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#1 Jul 11, 2017 10:40 pm

Benedict
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French President Emmanuel Macron has angered some social media users after he said that the problems Africa face are “civilisational,” adding that its women have “7 or 8 children.”
He said this at the G20 summit, after a reporter from Cote d’Ivoire asked him a question about how much the G20 countries are willing to commit to Africa. He said the problems with Africa are failed states; multiple trafficking issues for drugs, humans and weapons; infrastructure, education and health. Here’s a translation by a Reddit user:

Reporter from Ivory Coast:
The G20 have discussed the issue of poverty in Africa. We know that the Mashall plan in Europe cost 150 billion of today’s dollars. Concretely, how much are the G20 countries willing to commit to Africa today and what is France’s position on the matter?

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I don’t believe in this reasoning, forgive me for my directness. We among the West have been discussing such Marshall plans for Africa for many years and have in fact given many such plans already. So if it was so simple it would be fixed already. The Marshall plan was a reconstruction plan, a material plan in a region that already had its equilibriums, its borders and its stability. The problems Africa face are completely different and are much different and are “civilizational.” What are the problems? Failed states, complex democratic transitions and extremely difficult demographic transitions. Multiple trafficking routes that pose severe issues – drugs, human trafficking, weapons. Violent fundamentalism and islamic terrorism. All of these create major issues in a region that at the same time has some examples of excellent growth that prove the continent is a land of opportunity. So if we want a serious answer to African issues and African problems, we must develop a series of politics that are much more sophisticated that a simple Marshall plan or money transfer, which we agree with the world bank on. The matters of vital infrastructure, education, health – there are roles for financing and it is our responsibility to help on these issues. In terms of security, we must help by linking with regional African stability instruments which France is currently engaging in with the sahel nations. Development, security – and there is also a shared responsibility. Such a Mashall plan as you desire is also a plan that will be administered by African governments and regional blocs. It’s by a more rigorous governance, a fight against corruption, a fight for good governance, a successful demographic transition when countries today have 7 or 8 children per woman. As of today, spending billions of dollars outright would stabilize nothing. So the transformation plan that we have to conduct together must be developed according to African interests by and with African leaders. It must be a plan that must take into account the issues I’ve described, using public private partnerships, and must be conducted on a regional and sometimes even national basis.

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#2 Jul 11, 2017 10:54 pm

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Sadly, Africa hate to hear the truth. That also is our problem. we dance and rejoice with falsehood and distaste truth. What is wrong in what he said? are we actually not what he said we are? Did i hear some people say "racist"?  We Africans are the number one racist society in the world. Hausa hating Igbo man, his fellow countryman. Igbo detest Hausa man. Hausa giving his fellow Igbo man quit notice for doing nothing and when the European ask us to leave their country because we commit a crime, we begin to shout racist. What neocolonial words did he use? Did Biafra agitators not called their own country and her people a 'zoo', 'banana republic'? which is more derogatory and neocolonialism? Because we hate the truth, we will continue to circle in one place while other country are far head. Nonsense!

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#3 Jul 11, 2017 11:00 pm

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Macron says Africa's problems are "civilizational" and blames women with "7 or 8" kids. A repugnant speech.
Neoliberal centrist "resistance" Macron uses racist colonialist rhetoric for Africa, just like Hillary Clinton did
Basically Macron said to blame the black woman for Africa's problems and I'm sick. Gonna go take a nap. Y'all keep swooning if you want to.
Macron at #G20: "Africa's problems are civilizational," blames women with "7-8 kids"…this is more racist than Sarkozy's speech on Africa

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#4 Jul 11, 2017 11:05 pm

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This Is True, The Bitter Truth.An European Woman Is Hopeful With One Child While An African Woman Is Hopeless With Eight.Gestetionally Hopeless.

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Mr moderator you did not advance your clock.

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#5 Jul 12, 2017 4:13 am

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Benedict wrote:

This Is True, The Bitter Truth.An European Woman Is Hopeful With One Child While An African Woman Is Hopeless With Eight.Gestetionally Hopeless.

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Mr moderator you did not advance your clock.

This is a wonderful topic to discuss, Benedict. The  problem with Africa is that its roots began with the way it was colonized. The African mentality also attributed to its lack of progress. There is little logic in its peoples believe system. African women are children oriented and would have 10 brats while they live in abject poverty. You and I as women know that this is not good. There is little concept of family-planning They do it like animal fu@king in the woods! The utilization of resources and how it benefits its forever growing population has never been fixed. Its problem is too complex and Europe always want something in return. Is the continent a lost cause? No. But their people need to be reeducated in a lot of areas.

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#6 Jul 12, 2017 7:32 am

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Lord ah bunch here, where do I start? Kaiso, you always think fu@king is wrong.  I Fu@k in the river, in the woods, in ah church, by the side of the road anywhere and anyway I can.  They should use family planning, but they should also Fu@k anyway they could.

Maybe it is a problem with Black folks, they seem to never able to get their sheet together.  Africa is one the riches country on earth, but their leaders TIEF Too damn much.  Listen ah dated or Fu@k a talkshopper from Africa.  That woman was about 25 years old and loaded with money.  She came from England and bought ah four hundred thousand dollar house like if she was buying ah loaf ah bread.  Her dad was  close member of the government and had tons of monies.  Just imagine there are two hundred folks in government with all that damn amount of money, that means none for the less fortunate.

It is more than time, that these African country get themselves together.  It is only racism if it is not truth.  The story of Africa is much, much deeper than how I said it, but there need to be a plan in place for the heads of Africa to take control of their situations.

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#7 Jul 12, 2017 8:34 pm

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Some how I think that if I had written even a fraction of what you Bro's have just written I would have been ripped limb from limb, and an arm stuffed up my butt.

Africa is a Continent, not a country, and it's problems are diverse, and have multiple origins.... Many of which could be laid at the feet of the old Colonial masters.... not least the creation of boundaries that did not match with tribal territories.

But all that apart, at some point people have to take ownership of their own pile of sheite, and if almost every leader and his government is more interested in lining their own pockets than dragging the country up by its boot straps, then "Africa" will remain a place with great prospects, and little hope.

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