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#1 Dec 03, 2019 6:00 pm

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BLACK PROGESSIVE, ESPECIALLY BLACK WOMAN WAKE UP

Look as I said before Obama was an different candidate, not because he won, allyu tink, America is ready for another Black president.  Here is my question to allyu Black progessive, do you wanna defeat Trump? Now Corey Booker and Harris will never be president of these USA.

A great example is what happened in Florida in the governor's race.  This is not a time to gamble, getting rid of  Trump should be all black folks number one issue.

Sharpton and all ah allyu black folks, stop sticking  all you head in the sand.  America is not ready for another black president.

Kamala never embraced Obama agenda. Biden did, now he is getting 44% of the black vote in SC.

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#2 Dec 03, 2019 11:53 pm

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For any group to vote on race in any country is fundamentally daft. I would vote for who ever was the brightest, and most sincere candidate within the realm of being as close as possible to my desired wish list of needs for me and the country. In a multicultural country with a whole raft of ethnic groups, who is best for the job comes over whether the candidate is Irish, Latino, Black, Jew, White, or even Gay.

There can perhaps be exceptions, where the race or religiously motivated candidate is going to end up favouring his own group to the detriment of the others.

Although I am not overly knowledgeable on the issue, Trinidad seems to fit that bill, where The Asians seem ..... as seems to happen wherever the settle..... to elevate their own and seem to have an agenda to unify with Mother India, and keep the Blacks down.

The end result of that has to be discord, similar to what happened with the Tamils in what used to be called Ceylon.

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#3 Dec 04, 2019 11:12 am

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Re: BLACK PROGESSIVE, ESPECIALLY BLACK WOMAN WAKE UP

Slice wrote:

  "This is not a time to gamble, getting rid of  Trump should be all black folks number one issue."

"Kamala never embraced Obama agenda. Biden did, now he is getting 44% of the black vote in SC.

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Please articulate with specificity: Exactly what did Obama do for black people?  Focus on arears like improvement in educational opportunity, economic advancement......unemployment, median household income, social pathology, the highly disproportionate representation in all areas of criminal felonies. The breakdown in family structure......70% of out of wedlock births. What did that black man do for black people? Do you want black Americans to continue voting based on race?

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#4 Dec 04, 2019 11:20 am

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Expat wrote:

For any group to vote on race in any country is fundamentally daft. I would vote for who ever was the brightest, and most sincere candidate within the realm of being as close as possible to my desired wish list of needs for me and the country. In a multicultural country with a whole raft of ethnic groups, who is best for the job comes over whether the candidate is Irish, Latino, Black, Jew, White, or even Gay.

There can perhaps be exceptions, where the race or religiously motivated candidate is going to end up favouring his own group to the detriment of the others.

Although I am not overly knowledgeable on the issue, Trinidad seems to fit that bill, where The Asians seem ..... as seems to happen wherever the settle..... to elevate their own and seem to have an agenda to unify with Mother India, and keep the Blacks down.

The end result of that has to be discord, similar to what happened with the Tamils in what used to be called Ceylon.


I like that analysis. What is good for one segment of the population should be good for all, hence the betterment of the country. Balkanized societies are always in turmoil often leading to civil disobedience and bloodshed.

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#5 Dec 04, 2019 11:22 am

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WH Man wrote:
Slice wrote:

  "This is not a time to gamble, getting rid of  Trump should be all black folks number one issue."

"Kamala never embraced Obama agenda. Biden did, now he is getting 44% of the black vote in SC.

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Please articulate with specificity: Exactly what did Obama do for black people?  Focus on arears like improvement in educational opportunity, economic advancement......unemployment, median household income, social pathology, the highly disproportionate representation in all areas of criminal felonies. The breakdown in family structure......70% of out of wedlock births. What did that black man do for black people? Do you want black Americans to continue voting based on race?

How about curing the worst recession since the Great Depression, saving the auto industry and cutting the unemployment rate from 10% to 4.7% over six years, by the way the recession created by the Repugs? He was the POTUS, not the Black Christ. How about bringing class and respectability to the position, which has been swept away by the Buffoon-in-Chief? How about Obamacare, which provided health insurance to over 20 million uninsured Americans? How about signing the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act to re-regulate the financial sector?

He wasn't a great Black people's president, he was a great president, the best in living memory. Isn't that enough?

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#6 Dec 04, 2019 11:27 am

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I will never, ever understand what makes people loyal to pols.  Not Trump.  Not Obama.  Nobody.  Screw them all.

Domestically, presidents don't do much.  The recovery started and it didn't miss a beat when Obama left and Trump started.  In almost any statistic, the path continued without blip.  Why?  President's don't make the economy good and they don't make it bad.  More than 330 million Americans and billions of people worldwide drive recoveries and cause recessions.  Not one damn man with his ass in the Oval Office.

It didn't matter who was president, under or Obama or Trump.  The economy is doing what it is doing based on billions of people making trillions of decisions.  Not one man.

We need to get over the quasi-religious power we attribute to pols.

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#7 Dec 04, 2019 11:44 am

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New Historian wrote:
WH Man wrote:
Slice wrote:

  "This is not a time to gamble, getting rid of  Trump should be all black folks number one issue."

"Kamala never embraced Obama agenda. Biden did, now he is getting 44% of the black vote in SC.

"


Please articulate with specificity: Exactly what did Obama do for black people?  Focus on arears like improvement in educational opportunity, economic advancement......unemployment, median household income, social pathology, the highly disproportionate representation in all areas of criminal felonies. The breakdown in family structure......70% of out of wedlock births. What did that black man do for black people? Do you want black Americans to continue voting based on race?

How about curing the worst recession since the Great Depression, saving the auto industry and cutting the unemployment rate from 10% to 4.7% over six years, by the way the recession created by the Repugs? He was the POTUS, not the Black Christ. How about bringing class and respectability to the position, which has been swept away by the Buffoon-in-Chief? How about Obamacare, which provided health insurance to over 20 million uninsured Americans? How about signing the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act to re-regulate the financial sector?

He wasn't a great Black people's president, he was a great president, the best in living memory. Isn't that enough?


I'm not saying he was a perfect zero. However, the poverty rate increased during his Presidency, the people on food stamps increased by 5 million, affecting mostly black people. I think you made an error on the drop in unemployment rate, it was not reduced that low.

On the GM bail out, GM still owes the Federal Govt. $60 billion on that loan. Overall that stimulus package was a failure.  Obamacare is a failure, it's a socialist attempt to take over 14% of the US economy. I believe in the free market system, the Govt. should not be dictating who provide what type of health system prevails. We should be able to buy healthcare like we buys cars or bread. Personal choice. The Govt. could/should provide free care to the truly needy, but leave me alone if I like what I'm now buying.

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#8 Dec 04, 2019 11:49 am

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I suspect that more people went on food stamps because food stamps were made more available. The economy could be on fire with growth and unemployment could be zero but if you make it easy to get food stamps, more people will get food stamps.  It's free money and accepting free money is a rational act.

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#9 Dec 04, 2019 12:02 pm

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Correct, Obama relaxed the reforms and work requirements put in place by Clinton for welfare eligibility. He made it easier for deadbeats to stay home and get a free ride from the system.

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