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#11 May 30, 2020 7:46 am

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Expat you do come up with some crazy stuff.  Just maybe there are some truth with your coconut, and mango stuff. I can not eat Chiquita bananas.  If I do Organics or not, my belly hurts me all day.

So what in mangoes you kidney cant handle?  Man in your next life you should be ah doctor.  Ah go gee some credit doh, you must know something about the human body.  You do look great for your age.

NH, Expat and dem doh you in Grenada.  You travel too damn much.  You ah high risk.

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#12 May 30, 2020 3:09 pm

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U is so lazy dude just look it up.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/fo … ey-disease

It doesn't mention Coconuts, but it's for the same reasons, excess, phosphorus, Sodium, or Magnesium.

I am not perfect, I am not a doctor.... even close.... but I research things that concern me or my friends. So I have figured out a lot of stuff, avoiding the toxins that big pharma is sticking to ya.

I used to suck up their BS just like everyone else. Pain killers like dirt, Blood pressure tablets, Statins. The whole deck of cards. Not ever again. If you check the potential side effect for most of the medicines out there they aren't worth the risk, especially when they say "including death".

Which considering it would have been heavy use of pain killers that fricked my kidneys, and had I not got a handle on it, death would have been the side effect of them for me too. We look at those lists, of side effects and think it will be someone else, but one day it will be you.

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#13 May 31, 2020 3:58 pm

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Expat you are not totally crazy. You do make some great points, but medicine got their use.

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#14 May 31, 2020 5:20 pm

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Absolutely. medicine, and medicinal professionals, have done, and can do some amazing things. No doubt.

BUT, and exactly why I capitalised, it is a BIG BUT.

The basic premise that modern medicine works on is VERY compartmentalised. You have a pain in your knee, they look at your knee. You have a pain in your wrist they look at your wrist. Resulting in possibly surgery and at the very least tablets to ease the SYMPTOMS. Tablets like Ibuprofen, that prevent your joints from repairing, so increase wear and tear all over your body while you feel great with no pain, damage your liver, and in my case f.up the Kidneys.

They treat the symptoms for the most part. They have all been trained by the same meat grinder way, they have learned their physiology, to the same standards, and they all understand the problems the same way. Mostly.

Over the past 50 odd years Medicine has become increasingly specialised,and specialities do not talk to each other. A kidney man doesn't talk to a liver man, a ENT doctor doesn't have a rapport with the stomach and bowels guy. Yet the body does not know it is broken up into little bits.

If you have carpel tunnel syndome in your wrist. You probably need manipulation in your shoulder.... but you wont get it, they will cut open your wrist and snip away.

You have pain in your knee, your spine is probably out of line, because one leg is longer than the other, and it is causing a pinching of the nerve in the spine... Manipulation, specific exercises to the back, hips and knees, and voila, pain goes away, problem goes away, and you didn't need a router grinding out the meniscus. Throw in a heel lift on the short leg side, and you'll never have the problem again.

The listed potential side effects of one blood pressure tablet... Ramipril


    Blurred vision
    confusion
    dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up suddenly from a lying or sitting position
    sweating
    unusual tiredness or weakness

Less common

    Arm, back, or jaw pain
    chest pain or discomfort
    chest tightness or heaviness
    chills
    cloudy urine
    cold sweats
    decrease in urine output or decrease in urine-concentrating ability
    diarrhea
    fainting
    fast or irregular heartbeat
    shortness of breath

Rare

    Seizures
    unexplained bleeding or bruising


Or you could drink more water, exercise more, and use various herbs and foods that can lower blood pressure, and thin the blood, which helps as the blood is easier to pump. Almost all of the other options are harmless without side efects, and you were going to eat them anyway, so they are very cheap.

But not if a doctor gets on your case.

Even the "normal" blood pressure is an average decided after testing maybe 10,000 people... Suddenly we all needed to be 120/80, or what ever the committee decides as they have changed their minds several times in the last 50 years.

Your body has a built in set of sensors in the neck, if they deside you do not have enough oxygen getting to your brain they rais your pressure to get the oxygen to the most important organ in the body. Of course the doctor thinks he knows better than your own built in sensors. Do you think an antelope being chased by a lion stops to take a pressure tablet before it runs for it's life?

Emotional, physical, and chemical stressors cause your pressure to be elevated. Stop smoking which starves your brain of oxygen, never mind toxifying your whole system,exercise vigorously every now and then to bring down your pressure. Avoid stress, hug a human, and if you have one talk to your God.

Weight lifters can have a lifting BP of say 400/200, so maybe your 160 over 100 isn't so bad after all, although it wouldn't help to find ways to bring it down. Including lots of soluble fire foods and high fibre foods that will clean the crap out of your arteries in a month. No need for tubes run up through your groin and balloons to open up blockages, stents that have been proven to be an attraction for the very plaque they are displacing.

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#15 May 31, 2020 6:46 pm

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That does make a lot of sense Expat.
Thanks for the input, always good to know and refer to when dealing with certain ailments that the docs haven't got the time to figure out.

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#16 May 31, 2020 8:33 pm

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That does make a lot of sense Expat.
Thanks for the input, always good to know and refer to when dealing with certain ailments that the docs haven't got the time to figure out.

Glad some of it made sense.

Reading it back to the wife I thought of another observation relative to the Blood pressure tablets, which is fairly common across a range of medicines. One tablet usually leads to a second and a third as the side effects kick in.

Example, You take Ramipril, and probably you get a decrease in urine output, so even without waiting for that symptom it is likely they will put you on "water tablets". Then possibly you get a degree of arrhythmia caused by the Ramipril, so they give you warfarin.

People with multiple illnesses can end up on silly amounts of tablets. ALL of which have to be processed by the Liver. No surprise many tablets actually site warnings about liver damage. Many times although there are interaction lists, when you have that lot pumping through your body who knows what the combination is doing.

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#17 Jun 01, 2020 7:09 am

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I get your point, but there are cases, when Modern medicine is critical and must be used.  Ok I have or had a condition called H-pylori, as I read about it, I learn that this is very common. I think they say about 60% of the world population got it. My nurse gave me three antibiotic, and leh me say this.  One of dem, made me so sick, that ah just din know if ah was going to live or die.

I have since discovered, that Green tea and  broccoli helps. Especially Green tea.  Now I am studying another tea, it is called Matula tea. Not sure if it works, but that is something ah wanna drink a cup everyday.

I think you are extreme, but also have some very good information. Now the question is what do you do if someone has cancer?

I sorta soften my stance against some of your beliefs, when ah see what happen to me PADNAH, and you neighbor.  He was believed to have prostate cancer and he went on a very strict diet and started herds, all prescribe by ah well know herbalist in Grenada.  Now ah ent sure if the cancer is gone, but he look real good.  To be honest, when ah left Grenada, I thought that was the last time ah was going to see him, but he has since gone back to work and doing very well.

No I am not ah believer in your theory, but there is ah time and place for everything.  Especially if you place of residence is  Grenada, where no so-called doctors practices modern Medicine.

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#18 Jun 01, 2020 9:53 am

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H-Pylori IS very common. My neighbour had it, and she was extremely ill, wasted down to almost nothing. She had it mostly controlled by the time I heard using "natural products", but had done the doctor thing first. I made my recommendations, and when the stuff finally arrived in the post the completion of curing occurred.

Antibiotics are a disaster. They destroy your immune system, and leave you open to other conditions.

Grape seed extract, Apple Cider Vinegar, Manuka Honey, for killing off the bad bacteria, and slippery elm capsules to protect the lining of your guts and you are good to go.

Simple searches will find additional foods and natural benefits. The simple way is type natural cure for, against which ever illness in Google, and look at multiple sites, and extrapolate which is sensible, proven, or accepted as working. Check for potential hazzards, and you are sorted.

Unfortunately you are brainwashed, as I used to be. You don't do any research and you believe what Big Pharma and its sycophants the Doctors who are invested in the process tell you.

They have doctors here, they have scans, they have Laboratories.  Many problems cannot be treated here, it's true, but a lot can.

I am not extreme, dude, I am just enlightened. Natural medicine has worked for thousands of years... OK, some of it is fairy tales, but that is why you do research. Modern medicine is often synthesized old medicine. Or newly discovered, but the scary bit is some of those medicines work, and they have been selling it for maybe 30 years, but they still do not understand what the reason for it working is. I am not making stories, it is a fact. It seems crazy, but its true.

Even when you look at modern medicine sites, they will tell you this or that natural treatment might work, but it hasn't been researched.

Why the hell would a big pharma research Turmeric and Ginger tea which will reduce pain when they can't put it under license and make money out of it.

Many many of those old cures are mentioned, and it always comes up no research. Why, it cannot be patented.

The only downside with natural cures is often times you don't know how much of this or that to use, and even natural products can have side effects. Bush tea is OK, but too much black sage can damage you, as with many other things.

The Doctors are a great resource to go to establish what is wrong. You can't order blood tests Urinology, and x-rays, or scans, they can. But after that it is do you take expensive tablets, or eat some pineapple. Or what ever the natural solution might be.

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#19 Jun 01, 2020 1:12 pm

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What are the directions for all that your prescribe.  Once ah day three times ah day, take it all together? Doh talk about we black sage, ah grow up drinking dat. Why don't you open ah Bush doctor shop in Grenada?  Ah kinda bet you can help ah bunch ah Grenada more than them so-called doctors.

One by the Fish market, he is African, the only certificate he have hanging on her wall is six weeks course at SGU. The amount he medicine he prescribe to me uncle, make me shake me head.  He just listen to him and prescribe about $500.00 worth of drugs.

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#20 Jun 01, 2020 2:02 pm

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What are the directions for all that your prescribe.  Once ah day three times ah day, take it all together? Doh talk about we black sage, ah grow up drinking dat. Why don't you open ah Bush doctor shop in Grenada?  Ah kinda bet you can help ah bunch ah Grenada more than them so-called doctors.

One by the Fish market, he is African, the only certificate he have hanging on her wall is six weeks course at SGU. The amount he medicine he prescribe to me uncle, make me shake me head.  He just listen to him and prescribe about $500.00 worth of drugs.

There are a couple already, there's Patrick Delves, and a Rasta up near St Pauls that I know about.

Patrick speaks volumes on the TV, but pulls out pre made potions from America when you seek treatment. Or at least did, the Rasta guy made bottles of goop, but It all seemed hit or miss.

I may offer advice, but I don't spoon feed. Check it out, you will learn, and benefit from the learning exercise.

It was researching for my own illnesses, and the Wife's that caused me to acquire all this sundry information. It is more likely to mean something if it isn't just handed to you on a plate.

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