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#1 Nov 11, 2021 9:21 am

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WHEN DOES SOCILALISM WORK BETTER THAN DEMOCRACY? NO MORE QUARANTINE,

Someone said to me," name one thing of significant the NNP has done to benefit Grenadians for the last 16 years they have been in power"  Then they say name two things the NJM has done to benefit Grenadians in their just 4 years in office?  I got carried away and named about 12.  Under the NJM, Grenadians had free health care.  Under the NJM  Grenada was making stuff.  like Saltfish, and canned vegetables. Under the NJM, electric, water, and telephone was available to all Grenadian.  Lord there are so-much more. So when does socialism work better than democracy? I do believe that democracy is the way to go, but there must be exceptions.

No sure if this is the right thing to do, because this disease is very sneaky.  I honestly am not going happy with the news that there will be no more quarantine for visitors to Grenada.  Especially since quarantine is just 48 hours.  Beginning Monday no more quarantine.


Dancer leh me ask you this, is there a $1, $5, or $20 notes in Jamaica?  Leh me tell you the reason I ask, NH had posted ah price for 4 grapes in Jamaica, here is the price for one pound and ah half of Oxtails, $1008.00.  At one time ah was preaching one Caribbean currency.  Nope, no more, allyu , Guyana and Trinidad keep allyu stinking no value monies.  Guyana is even worst that Jamaica.  Please America please do not stop supporting the EC currency.  You know when ah see Food prices in Guyana and Jamaica, ah does say Thank God for America.

Ah must say this, When ah came to this country 41 years ago, Oxtails was about 89cents ah pound and folks did not buy it.  Today at Whole Foods it is one of the most expensive cuts of meats.

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#2 Nov 11, 2021 9:47 am

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Under the NJM you had to conform.  Education was driven even if you were elderly and didn't want to be educated.  Militia service was demanded even if you were a pacifist.  If you were a Rastafarian you were told to change or put in a camp. You sure as hell wouldn't be allowed to post complaints about the NJM on Talkshop if such a thing existed.

If what you wanted was the "forward ever, backward never" life offered by the NJM, then the NJM was pretty awesome.

If what you wanted was to go your own way, not be part of the collective, speak out about what you saw as wrong, be a free thinker and live a free life, then life under the NJM would be terrible.

The problem with socialism is that it is one-size-fits-all.  But it is uncomfortable as hell if it doesn't fit you.

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#3 Nov 11, 2021 1:51 pm

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It's easy to look back 40 with rose-tinted glasses and see all the 'good' things the Revo did for Grenada. Two things: What about the 'bad' they did? And they were only in for 4 years, it's easy to do 'good' things in just 4 years - but are they sustainable? I don't think they were. In fact I'm happy as hell that nightmare only lasted 4 years. When I was in England during the Revo, a shaggy-headed socialist, I thought Maurice and the Revo were the bee's knees. Now I'm a bald-headed pragmatist in Grenada, I hear the real news and see the wood for the trees.

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#4 Nov 12, 2021 9:46 am

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Real Distwalker wrote:

Under the NJM you had to conform.  Education was driven even if you were elderly and didn't want to be educated.  Militia service was demanded even if you were a pacifist.  If you were a Rastafarian you were told to change or put in a camp. You sure as hell wouldn't be allowed to post complaints about the NJM on Talkshop if such a thing existed.

If what you wanted was the "forward ever, backward never" life offered by the NJM, then the NJM was pretty awesome.

If what you wanted was to go your own way, not be part of the collective, speak out about what you saw as wrong, be a free thinker and live a free life, then life under the NJM would be terrible.

The problem with socialism is that it is one-size-fits-all.  But it is uncomfortable as hell if it doesn't fit you.

  When wicked democracy only benefits a few folks in the country it's just as bad as socialism or in some cases even more dangerous.  There are folks who makes blocks for building homes. This democracy in Grenada undercuts them, by making the same blocks at a cheaper rate.  How on earth can that be fair?  I am willing to take it, if the monies are used to benefit the Grenadians, but no, it's being used to full the pockets of a few.  I do not see how Grenadians can take this madness. The biggest rip off by far in Grenada is the Marketing board.  They go to the fields buy the farmers product for nothing and sell it for 500% more than amount they paid for it.  Really?

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#5 Nov 12, 2021 12:08 pm

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Of course I don't know the details of the block making business in Grenada but I do know this:  The notion that a socialist government wouldn't undercut private businesses is madness.  Whatever is going on in regards to government competing with the private sector in Grenada would have been a thousand times more expansive under the NJM.  The ultimate goal of the Marxist/Leninist NJM was to put all private businesses - except maybe one-man shops - under the government.  Every business would be nationalized.

There is a word in German that describes what you are feeling Slice: Weltschmerz. "It means to suffer from mental depression or apathy caused by comparison of the actual state of the world with an ideal state"

Utopia is an impossible state for mankind. Nothing straight shall ever be constructed from the crooked timber of humanity.  To tell yourself that utopia is possible but just out of reach is to make your self depressed.  Better to just, as an old French proverb says, "Worship the God of all people, drink the wine, and let the world be the world."

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#6 Nov 12, 2021 1:56 pm

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Slice   :  you posted  this  ...>  when wicked democracy only benefits a few folks in the country , its just as bad as socialism or in some cases even more dangerous... <

Looooordddddd !  ....some light coming.  but think of it on a bigger scale than Gree .

Don't mind RD's NON statement  > the problem with Socialism is that one-size fits all.  But it is as uncomfortable as hell if it doesn't fit you .
= = state of US today ...
from Covid to Governance . " Doesn't fit ME.

COP26  ... Climate talks just finishing up . The regular people attending  saying , the ' Money Countries ' destroying the planet for MONEY.   "" Capitalism not working , MAYBE killing us.

...................

Addressing your  $1 , $5  or even $20   ...Jamaican currency  . All I could think of is when NH visits   Jamaica he must be a Trillionaire . 
smh. lol.

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#7 Nov 12, 2021 3:01 pm

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Dancer wrote:

Don't mind RD's NON statement  > the problem with Socialism is that one-size fits all.  But it is as uncomfortable as hell if it doesn't fit you .
= = state of US today ...
from Covid to Governance . " Doesn't fit ME.

In California they have an indoor mask mandate, required social distancing and vaccine passports.

In Florida they have virtually no Covid restrictions at all.

The rest of the states run the range in between.

In other words, the US is about as far from 'once size fits all' as any nation in the world.

You know Dancer, you should probably think before you post once in a while.

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#8 Nov 15, 2021 9:46 am

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Dancer wrote:

Slice   :  you posted  this  ...>  when wicked democracy only benefits a few folks in the country , its just as bad as socialism or in some cases even more dangerous... <

Looooordddddd !  ....some light coming.  but think of it on a bigger scale than Gree .

Don't mind RD's NON statement  > the problem with Socialism is that one-size fits all.  But it is as uncomfortable as hell if it doesn't fit you .
= = state of US today ...
from Covid to Governance . " Doesn't fit ME.

COP26  ... Climate talks just finishing up . The regular people attending  saying , the ' Money Countries ' destroying the planet for MONEY.   "" Capitalism not working , MAYBE killing us.

...................

Addressing your  $1 , $5  or even $20   ...Jamaican currency  . All I could think of is when NH visits   Jamaica he must be a Trillionaire . 
smh. lol.

Not because ah few republicans has gone mad, am going to say capitalism is not working,  I think is at its best now. I think democracy is the only damn way to go.  A government for the people by the people. America is going some changes and am sure they will emerge from this much, much better.  Maybe not in the next two elections, but I think Republicans will pay later for what they are doing.  Keep in mind not all republicans are DOTISH.  You see our kids are a very very breed of humans.

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