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#21 Jun 13, 2017 9:25 pm

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Used to be a time when a pick-up was a work vehicle. Had to borrow one when needed for a particular job. Now a days they are king of the road. They are the city folks choice of get around vehicle.
I find the most aggressive drivers are in pick-ups. They drive fast and are always on the tail with that " get out of my way " type of aggressive driving.
Not funny how it is usually pickups in the ditch during winter time.

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#22 Jun 13, 2017 10:03 pm

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You know, I have driven a full sized pickup as my primary vehicle my entire adult life.  Right now I have a crew cab, four wheel drive 2017 Toyota Tundra Limited.   I am really enjoying it.  I don't really use it for work but I will haul stuff with it and I use it to pull trailers now and then.  I use the four wheel drive a lot in the winter.

About every third vehicle on the road is a pickup in Iowa.

Mine looks like this.

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#23 Jun 14, 2017 7:21 am

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Ah wonder if you guys beat this one town in West Virginia?  Is like there are no cars in that town.

Not a lover of Pickups.

Well RD did not see you driving a Toyota.  Saw you as Ford , Dodge or Chevy person.

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#24 Jun 14, 2017 8:53 am

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Toyota and Nissan make some nice trucks. I like that Tundra, very nice. Also like the Toyota Tacoma.

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#25 Jun 14, 2017 9:02 am

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I have owned seven pickups since I was 18:

A 1979 Ford F-150
A 1991 Ford F-150
A 1995 Ford F-150
A 1998 Ford F-150
A 2002 Ford F-150
A 2013 Toyota Tundra
A 2017 Toyota Tundra

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#26 Jun 14, 2017 11:33 am

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You are a Ford man. Realizing, that they are making them better, and maybe it is time for me to try one, but I have never bought an American vehicle. I buy dependability.  That is why ah was so disappointed that my FJ Cruiser blew up after eighty thousand something miles.

I think the Nissan gives tons of trouble. Consumer Report says to stay away from used Nissan trucks.

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#27 Jun 14, 2017 1:27 pm

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I like the Honda Ridgeline, sharp looking trucks.

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#28 Jun 14, 2017 1:31 pm

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Slice wrote:

You are a Ford man.

Not lately. 

Nah, they make fine trucks but so does Toyota.  I have been very satisfied with my last Ford and my last Toyota.

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#29 Jun 14, 2017 3:49 pm

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Expat: Absolutely, positively nonsense.  The goal of roof work is to get a roof for the best value. It most certainly is not to create work.  You remind me of a conversation Milton Friedman had with a Chinese aparachick. 

At one of our dinners, Milton recalled traveling to an Asian country in the 1960s and visiting a worksite where a new canal was being built. He was shocked to see that, instead of modern tractors and earth movers, the workers had shovels. He asked why there were so few machines. The government bureaucrat explained: “You don’t understand. This is a jobs program.” To which Milton replied: “Oh, I thought you were trying to build a canal. If it’s jobs you want, then you should give these workers spoons, not shovels.”

By your logic, the economy would be better served if only native born were allowed to work, minimum wage was $50 an hour and all roofers had to work with one hand tied behind their backs.  That would really create a lot of wealth, wouldn't it?  Bah!

This idea that factories create jobs rather than factories create goods is crypto-socialist twaddle.  The real world doesn't work that way.

As for the argument the work is shoddy, well, you can get shoddy work from anybody of any race so caveat emptor.

Houston: These people were working for a price they negotiated and, based on the newer, high end pickup trucks they were driving, they were doing fine.   A roof has a fixed price and they are peeling off a fair amount because the company that hired them doesn't have a hell of a lot of choices.  They are Guatemalans, not morons.   They deserve to make a living too.


Senor,

You are making your own points based on your opinion of what you seem to think I am saying.

Basically hypothetical straw men.

I no say BS about $50 meeenemum wage.

I no say ANYONE has to work at less than their capabilities.

I no say factories create jobs... the Employer creates the jobs which are then done in the factory. or even on the factory roof.

I do say using wetback labour with considerably limited requirements for decent living standards is like using scab labour to break a strike. It is as I did say like exporting the work but within the boundaries of the country. It is a smart move for a company to keep their labour costs down by using ill controlled exploitative companies abroad in sweat shop conditions, But it IS immoral and unfair on the probably conscientious pre-existing workers who probably helped build the company up in the first place.

As was stated who knows who actually has the title to those vehicles? Is it really relevant. Considering the fuss you guys make about immigrants having to pass nationality tests, it is unlikely they are legals. With your recognition that they could barely put a few words together.

Fortunately for you you are not at the bottom of the heap, and yes we all know you worked hard, studied etc etc, but I bet if you hadn't had the smarts, luck or what ever it took to prosper you wouldn't want an outsider dropping their pants and crapping on you from a great height. Which is what these recent or possibly illegal immigrants are doing.

I guess we'll have to change it from I'm all right Jack to I'm all right RD.

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#30 Jun 14, 2017 4:26 pm

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...is like using scab labour to break a strike.

"Scab" labor: There is no such thing.  They are just people bidding a lower fee for work.  There is absolutely, positively nothing wrong with that in the wide world.  In fact it is a good thing. Competition in the market is a societal good.


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But it IS immoral and unfair on the probably conscientious pre-existing workers

Nonsense.  Workers get paid a salary and benefits.  Unless they have an equity stake in the business, that is their negotiated compensation.  Their employer doesn't owe them more than that.

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As was stated who knows who actually has the title to those vehicles?

What difference does it make?  They were using them like they were their own and they were very nice.

Expat wrote:

Fortunately for you you are not at the bottom of the heap,

I was born on the bottom of the heap and I am grateful to a few people who gave me a chance to work my ass off for minimum wage and prove my value.   They weren't shitting on me by "exploiting" me.  They were opening the door to opportunity.

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